Can anyone think of any reason not to be a Rogue?

[Desdichado]

Yeah he could be law abiding just not very likable is all. At least not once you get past his charming and witty exterior anyway.

Again, the rogue is just a name attached to the character class, not a restriction on how it must be played. For (one of the two) most flexible class(es) in the game, it seems silly to pigeonhole the rogue into the thief role.

 

[Harlock]

Play a bard. You get to play music, flirt with the Freeport babes, and cast a few spells, wear armor and fight half way decently. As long as the DM is willing to balance it out a bit I think bard is a great solo class. Talk her into the 6 skill points per level thing too. =) Good luck.

 

[Drawmack]

Again, the rogue is just a name attached to the character class, not a restriction on how it must be played. For (one of the two) most flexible class(es) in the game, it seems silly to pigeonhole the rogue into the thief role.

and exactly how was I pigeonholing him. Take a good close look at the rogues skills. A rogue as some level is going to be a liar, a purveyor of secrets, a con man. It does not matter if he does these things for or against the government they still make him despicable it's just a matter of if the state or the criminals despise him but the rogue will always be despised. I posted the dictionary definition of rogue, if you're not playing that you're not playing a rogue. Sure the knight in shinning armor can be a rogue just remember one person's knight is another person's deamon.

 

[Desdichado]

and exactly how was I pigeonholing him. Take a good close look at the rogues skills. A rogue as some level is going to be a liar, a purveyor of secrets, a con man. It does not matter if he does these things for or against the government they still make him despicable it's just a matter of if the state or the criminals despise him but the rogue will always be despised. I posted the dictionary definition of rogue, if you're not playing that you're not playing a rogue. Sure the knight in shinning armor can be a rogue just remember one person's knight is another person's deamon.

I never said you were. I was referring to eij1_1's post that you may not want to be a rogue because you'd end up on the bad end of the local thieve's guild. And the rogue has access to all kinds of skills. You could concievably build a rogue that is a great potter, cobbler, fletcher, orator, harp performer and who also happened to have sneak attack and uncanny dodge for some reason. The class is really that flexible. If you say a rogue must be a con man or a thief, then yes, you have pigeonholed the class.

 

[Drawmack]

I never said you were. I was referring to eij1_1's post that you may not want to be a rogue because you'd end up on the bad end of the local thieve's guild. And the rogue has access to all kinds of skills. You could concievably build a rogue that is a great potter, cobbler, fletcher, orator, harp performer and who also happened to have sneak attack and uncanny dodge for some reason. The class is really that flexible. If you say a rogue must be a con man or a thief, then yes, you have pigeonholed the class.

Look back up the thread you're quoting me and saying those things.

Okay so you've got a rogue who is an amazing craftsman of some sort. To spend all his skill ranks on those sorts of skills he would be a master crafter in more then one trade in let's say 6 trades. Now you've got someone who is as good as the best craftsman in his league in 6 different crafts. There are two reasons for doing this that I can think of

1) He is gready. This means that he's taking business from these other peopole because it's easier to go to one person then 6. It also means that the crafters in town do not like this guy. Therefor we are left with at the core the descpicable rogue. No matter how kind, just and nice he is.

2) He is some type of con man or spy or something that has to be able to play different roles and play them very well. This one we can all see is very rogueish.

All I'm saying is that when they made the rogue they knew what they were doing with the class. While the ends may be noble his means are often questionable.

 

[Ashrem Bayle]

Play a bard. You get to play music, flirt with the Freeport babes, and cast a few spells, wear armor and fight half way decently. As long as the DM is willing to balance it out a bit I think bard is a great solo class. Talk her into the 6 skill points per level thing too. =) Good luck.

*sigh* If it wasn't for the singing and dancing nonsense, I would love bards.

 

[MarauderX]

Bard in the city, how can you go wrong? Almost as many skills as a rogue, and has automatic casting ability as well as a silver tongue to get out of precarious situations. Go with the storytelling bard, or a mime...

 

[Technik4]

Athlete
Balance, Climb, Escape Artist, Jump, Move Silently, Spot, Swim, Tumble

Craftsman
Appraise, Craftx3, Disable Device, Open Lock, Profession, Search

Diplomat
Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Innuendo, Listen, Perform, Read Lips, Sense Motive

Magician (Houdini Style)
Disguise, Escape Artist, Hide, Move Silently, Open Locks, Perform, Sleight of Hands (was Pickpocket in 3.0e), Use Magic Device

Scout
Climb, Disable Device, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, Spot, Tumble


A conman or thief probably will take rogue levels. Taking rogue levels does not make you a conman or a thief.

Technik

 

[ejja_1]

Hey Josh

It was a joke lighten up, and people wonder why there are so many lurkers around here when you cant even post a joke without someone getting all offended and stuff.

 

[drnuncheon]

Athlete, Craftsman, Diplomat, Magician (Houdini Style), Scout

Sailor!

Balance, Climb, Craft (various), Intuit Direction, Profession: Sailor (or Navigator), Spot, Swim (many sailors couldn't, but you're a PC, go for it), Use Rope.

J
...hates it when they're misspelled...
...hates it when they're pigeonholed...