Can I ask why people do this?

[Crothian]

THis guys funny!!

Okay, so do you actually have a point? You are spouting off a lot of reteric but no real substance? Are you just mad at PC because he banned you?

 

[Dinkeldog]

BreakAWindow, consider this a cease and desist. Thank you.

 

[Crothian]

PC does follow the rules, I've been here a long time and obviously spend some time here, more then most people. Sure, the place isn't perfect but its so much better then any othe r RPG site I've ever seen it isn't even close.

And back to the point of the topic, you can critize a persons opinion without critising them. It's called being adult, many people argue over very heated subjects but still remain friends. Don't take it personally, this is just a message baord.

 

[Crothian]

Blah, blah, blah. (Paraphrase by Dinkeldog.)

This is completely untrue. How do I know? For a few months I was able to read the private threads of the admins and moderators. And read them I did. They go out of their way to try to be fair to people. I don't know what started this, I don't know what names of yours got banned or what the posts were like. I do know that PC and the others do not ban people for the reasons you suggest.

Ultimately, you are a guest here. THis place belongs solely to Morrus and he can and does enforce his rules the way he wants to. I don't agree with everything he does or that goes on here, but I can still behave becasue I think it's not worth it in the end.

 

[Crothian]

And your subject is role playing???

Sure, the mods can and have the authority to do what they want, guess what all admins have this power. This is nothing new. If you don't like it, then leave. I hate to sound rude byut that is the solution to this problem. This is EN World, not oxcygen...you can live without it.

 

[Crothian]

Their ideas of fairness seem to be "warn once, then perhaps twice, and if the person still expresses inconvenient or uncomfortably unpleasant opinions, ban him."

And quite a few number of people consider this to be "solving a problem". Mostly because they've been heavily selected for.

How many warnings should a disruptive person get?

And no one complains because you want to remain here! You're not willing to risk access to EN World by stating what they're doing is wrong -- you're not even willing to look for the problems, because that would make it too hard to stay.

Not risk EN World? Not look at the problems? There is only one person right not listening to you and trying to figure out what the problems are. I suggest you show me what the problems are and then maybe we can get somewhere.

If you invite someone in, violate the terms under which you invited them, what makes you think that you can then complain about their not honoring those terms?

You got an personal invitation here? Most people like myself just found it by acciendent or happenstance. Again, what terms specifically are you talking about ans where are they being violated?

 

[Crothian]

Blah, blah, blah

Grow some skin. I'm serious, you should hear some of the things publishers herar about their work. Books they have slaved over, invested money time, and blood into and then when they finally see their dream a reality some one ios screaming its worthless. I know becasue I've talked to writers and publishers, and I've also called some ones pride and joy crap as a reviewer.

 

[Crothian]

Define "disruptive". Disruptive to what? To whom?

They define 'disruptive' as they like, without regard for the standards they imposed.

They define the words. They are the people in charge, they get to do that. Sorry, but thats the way it works. And if many people disagreed with them it would get changed. But most people do agree with them.

That's forbidden. Public complaints aren't permitted, and the people I've contacted have no interest in discussing it either. I doubt you're honestly concerned, yourself... although I admit I could be wrong.

Many people consider it rude to air private complaints in the public. And I imagine if your e-mails have been like this, I would be tough to get anywhere becasue you are not listening. You have a perscribed opinion of how things are but you don't seem to have proof.

Anyone arriving here is invited to join the community, as long as they follow the rules. Unless they follow the rules but the mods feel like doing what they like, of course... then they're subject to editing, deletion or banning.

Inviting and finding this place are two different things. Even Mr Dictionary says so. And again you are going on and on and on about the unfairness. But I still don't see it.

 

[Crothian]

And since you are continue to post using alt IDs after you have been asked to leave just proves PCs point that banning you was a good thing. You are acting like a person who deserves to get banned does.

And that's the end of my fun here. I tried to listen, I was patient. But no more.

 

[Piratecat]

Since it's always fun to put things in perspective, out of 18,757 members we have 32 people on the ban list. Those 32 actually consist of about 25 people due to multiple user names for some folks, and more than half of those are folks who showed up once to post spam. All in all, I think it's fair to say that we only ban as a last resort, when the problem can't be resolved through discussion.

In any case, I'll go on record as saying I'm *very* proud of the folks who post here. Most people are great at self-moderating and keeping their tempers, and it makes our jobs much easier. Thank you for that.