Can I Get the OGC From M&M?

[Neowolf]

Let me understand:

You really like MnM, but you don't want to pay for it.

Instead you'd like someone who has paid for it to type up the rules for you to have free of charge? What's the motivation for anyone to do that for you?

MnM really is a well-done product and I suggest you save up to get it if you want it.

I disagree. All he's asking for is the book's (limited) OGC. That's the very nature of the OGL, to have some material available free of charge. I agree that M&M is WELL worth the retail price (I paid full price for it and have yet to regret it). However, I can't sit here and watch you jump all over someone for asking for something that anyone is entitled to.

 

[Ranger REG]

No, the very nature of OGL is not possessing OGC for free, but sharing OGC within the publishing circle.

 

[tburdett]

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Take something thats pretty similiar, modding for FPS and other games. Been around a lot longer than the OGL thing. Guess what, people don't write in to John Carmack and Tim Sweeney and ask for permission every time when they want to put out a mod to their game. No, by the EULA and other things, they have already given you the right to do so without needing to ask. Most people do give them props in one way or another, but its neither a requirement.

One important point (concerning software) is that you must buy the original product before you can modify it. You can only use the protections contained within the EULA if you have purchased the software. At that point they already have your money, and any work that you do to expand upon their product will only help to broaden the potential interest in, and market for, their software.

 

[Hollywood]

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Originally posted by tburdett One important point (concerning software) is that you must buy the original product before you can modify it. You can only use the protections contained within the EULA if you have purchased the software. At that point they already have your money, and any work that you do to expand upon their product will only help to broaden the potential interest in, and market for, their software.

So? You still agreed to the EULA and within it they give you specific permission to do use the software in question within certain guidelines. When you use the SRD as a basis for a game, you have had to agree to the OGL, which is in a sense a EULA. Its given you permission, within a certain guidelines, to use the material. Whether you had to buy it or not is not really all that important.

No, the very nature of OGL is not possessing OGC for free, but sharing OGC within the publishing circle.

I must disagree here. While I am sure that was one of the intentions, if I remember Dancy's spiels way back when, it was to allow ANYONE, not just those in the publishing/game design cliche, to create new material and/or use material from the game without needing specific, individual, licensing from WotC.

 

[kingpaul]

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I must disagree here. While I am sure that was one of the intentions, if I remember Dancy's spiels way back when, it was to allow ANYONE, not just those in the publishing/game design cliche, to create new material and/or use material from the game without needing specific, individual, licensing from WotC.

Would that not then make said creator a publisher? If its just a GM doing stuff for their campain, they never needed WotC/TSR permission to do that. However, once you make it available for public consumption (web site only, PDF, print, etc), you became a publisher.