Can Shatter sunder weapons?

[Liquidsabre]

Hmm, suppressing a magical weapon with a targeted dispel isn't the same thing as making the weapon non-magical. It's just suppressed. I take it that shatter would still not work on a "suppressed" magical item then.

 

[Sithobi1]

It's nonmagical for the duration, though, as specifically stated in Dispel Magic.

 

[shilsen]

I disagree with Liquidsabre. As long as the weapon has been successfully "suppressed", it no longer counts as magical and is fair game for a Shatter.

 

[Chimera]

Indeed. Whilst targeting it against wizards is sub-optimal (due to their Will saves),

A common misperception. Sure, it's their 'good' save, but they rarely have Wisdom bonuses. Hence, I have no problems with throwing a Will Save spell at a low-level Wizard with his +2, +3 or even +4 Will Save.

It's CLERICS that you really do not want to target with Will Saves.

I'd also like to point out that Potions prominently displayed in Potion Belts are a great target for Shatter spells and Sundering.

(Oh, and I warned one of my players that, should his Rogue/Wizard start carrying around a backpack full of Acid flasks and Alchemist fire - as he was considering, the bad guys are going to take note of how he keeps pulling this stuff out of his pack, and they're going to start the "smashy, smashy" routine on it. Even if it requires a House Rule. It only makes sense.)

 

[Infiniti2000]

Shatter glass of a potion? No, that would be the same "object." Otherwise, you could just shatter the hilt on the magical longsword or the straps on the magical armor, the hinges on the door, etc. Be careful of what you allow as an "object." In some cases, it might be okay, in others it might not.

 

[Liquidsabre]

Oops, there was supposed to be a question mark at the end of my last sentence. I've always run dispel + shatter = busted magical item, but it just occured to me to ask the question: Is a suppressed magical item really the same as a non-magical item? Moot point though upon referencing the text since the spell calls the item non-magical during the duration of suppression, my bad. What I get for thinking out loud heh. Always been a fav spell combo with our cleric or paladin in the party upon an evil/unholy weapon wielded by the big bad!

 

[Hypersmurf]

Shatter glass of a potion? No, that would be the same "object."

If I pour a potion of Cure Light Wounds out of the vial and into a mug, and then drink the liquid from the mug, are my wounds cured?

-Hyp.

 

[Bagpuss]

I'm using the Warlock's version of Shatter for great effect thanks. Shatter at will, lovely.

Now one question is the bottle containing a potion magical?

If not shatter is evil against a party, that carrys a stock of potions.

Am I correct in thinking items in packs and belts don't count as attended, they need to be in hand. Thus all those cure potions go boom!

 

[shilsen]

Now one question is the bottle containing a potion magical?

I'd say "No," but I think there's basis for argument.

Am I correct in thinking items in packs and belts don't count as attended, they need to be in hand. Thus all those cure potions go boom!

No. As long as the items are being carried by someone they count as attended.

 

[RigaMortus2]

Shatter glass of a potion? No, that would be the same "object." Otherwise, you could just shatter the hilt on the magical longsword or the straps on the magical armor, the hinges on the door, etc. Be careful of what you allow as an "object." In some cases, it might be okay, in others it might not.

What is wrong with targetting the hinges on a door with Shatter? Or a lock for that matter? Or even the door knob?