Can Shatter sunder weapons?

Infiniti2000 said:
There's nothing to suggest that the vial isn't magical, is there? More to the actual point, is there any clear definition of what an object is? Can I target the hilt on a magical longsword? Is the hilt magical? How about the straps on some armor, or the chain of an amulet, or the rolling pin on a scroll, etc.?

Can you animate the lock out of a door, or maybe the doorknob, or hinges?

Can you animate the potion bottle, but not the magical liquid inside of a potion sitting on the counter?

You can't sunder armor, but can you sunder the straps holding the armor together?

The hilt is part of the sword; if the sword is magical, the hilt is magical.

The straps are part of the armor; if the rule states that armor cannot be sundered, the straps are covered by that ruling.

If the lock/knob/hinge is defined as a separate object, it can be animated independently of the door.

If the potion is the magical liquid, then the vial it is contained in is not magical liquid, and thus not the potion.

Should a potion of CLW work if it's poured over a medicine spoon of sugar and fed to an injured child? IMO, absolutely - the child is swallowing the magical liquid. The fact that it's not being administered directly from a glass vial doesn't change that.

-Hyp.
 

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Hypersmurf said:
If you wanted a precedent for a ruling on "How long can an object be and still be attended?", you could extrapolate from the Invisibility spell:
Any part of an item that the subject carries but that extends more than 10 feet from it becomes visible.

-Hyp.
What about a barbarian minotaur wielding a longspear (as happened to us on Friday night)? Is that 10ft from the square it occupies? Or 10ft from the hands holding the spear? (said hands could be 10ft from squares occupied). Is the spear still attended? (it's a serious question, I'm not trying to poke fun).
 

Legildur said:
What about a barbarian minotaur wielding a longspear (as happened to us on Friday night)? Is that 10ft from the square it occupies? Or 10ft from the hands holding the spear? (said hands could be 10ft from squares occupied). Is the spear still attended? (it's a serious question, I'm not trying to poke fun).

With an invisibility spell, he'd have to be careful how he held it, or the tip of the spearhead or butt might become visible.

I'd personally call it attended - as I said, calling a portion of it unattended would be an extrapolation from the invisibility rule, if one felt such was needed.

-Hyp.
 

One of my favorite uses for shatter is an alternative to the knock spell. It does the same thing really and has other uses besides. As long as you don't see a need to close the door later and don't mind making a bit of noise, it is a flashy way to enter a room. :)
 


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