Can we please stop calling D&D Insider an MMORPG

[smootrk]

Obviously you have no clue what an MMORPG is.

wrong

 

[Cergorach]

If it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, then it is likely a duck!

I wonder what would happen if we used that anology on you... Would probably get me banned, just not worth it in my opinion. A word that Eric's grandma won't mind though is 'clueless'.

MMORPG Stands for "MASSIVE Multiplayer Online RolePlaying Game", D&D Insider isn't a massive multiplayer, it's multiplayer. Also, it's not a computer game, there are tools to play a p&p over the internet. Paying a fee doesn't make a MMORPG, there are loads of free MMORPGS around. There's a huge difference, if you can't see it and keep insisting on taking that attitude, expect to be ignored a lot.

For pete's sake, it's like saying ENWORLD is a MMORPG due to itmeing online, having a specific forum for actual RPG games, and having a pay for Subscription...

 

[smootrk]

I think name calling, or inferred name calling (quite skillfully done Cergorach) is not really necessary. It is my opinion, and I have not seen an argument that really changes it yet.

 

[Jim Hague]

I think name calling, or inferred name calling (quite skillfully done Cergorach) is not really necessary. It is my opinion, and I have not seen an argument that really changes it yet.

Except that you apparently missed the bit on the front page of the site where 4e is flat-out stated as being primarily a physical product. As in the DI/Insider stuff is optional.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's likely a duck...unless the person calling it a duck doesn't know what a duck is.

 

[smootrk]

Except that you apparently missed the bit on the front page of the site where 4e is flat-out stated as being primarily a physical product. As in the DI/Insider stuff is optional.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's likely a duck...unless the person calling it a duck doesn't know what a duck is.

I thought this thread was about D&D Insider... and having to pay for use of the online tools and games hosted through it. We are not talking about the books.

 

[Odhanan]

"Bu-bu-but you gotta pay for a subscription!" you say? Well, I had a subscription to Dragon magazine, and I know lots of others did as well. By this logic, every magazine is an MMORPG

*cough cough*

The big difference being that a subscription to a paper magazine gets you content that you can keep ad vitam aeternam, all your life and beyond, if you take care of it, and that this content does not use any technology that will be obsolete in a matter of years/decades, since the material is already printed.

Unless of course, we end up having no eyes to see in the next few years due to mutation or accidents... lol

Essentially, a subscription to a paper magazine makes you the owner of content that is published periodically until you stop your subscription. Then you keep being the owner of what you already got. With D.I., you essentially rent a temporary access to a content which will not be available forever, due to evolutions of the media and technologies that support it.

 

[Jim Hague]

I thought this thread was about D&D Insider... and having to pay for use of the online tools and games hosted through it. We are not talking about the books.

And you're sitting there agreeing with it being an MMO...which it clearly isn't. 4e's a primarily physical product, with books, dice, minis, the whole shebang. The online content is supplemental...unlike an MMO, where the online content is required.

Your duck is a goose, it seems.

 

[Maggan]

Essentially, a subscription to a paper magazine makes you the owner of content that is published periodically until you stop your subscription. Then you keep being the owner of what you already got. With D.I., you essentially rent a temporary access to a content which will not be available forever, due to evolutions of the media and technologies that support it.

Yeah, well, I think the point was that the subscription part does not make an online service a MMORPG. Unless we start counting the Wall Street Journal and such services as MMORPGs, that is.

/M

 

[Jack99]

From a global point of view, the DI will be much cheaper.

Not everyone that plays DnD lives in the US. Subscriptions here (in europe) are far more expensive due to shipment costs, and on top of that, we have to wait quite long for the stuff to arrive (example, it takes Paizo almost a month to ship anything here). And god forbid that I buy the magazines from our gaming stores. Dragon + Dungeon = almost 30 dollars.

The DI will enable me to get what I pay for when it is out, way cheaper than before.

I think it will be great.

 

[Odhanan]

Yeah, well, I think the point was that the subscription part does not make an online service a MMORPG. Unless we start counting the Wall Street Journal and such services as MMORPGs, that is.

/M

Sure. I didn't mean to derail the point. Just used it to throw another ball in the arena.

Sorry about that. I just want to discuss my real problem with D.I. I probably chose the wrong place for it.