Can we please stop calling D&D Insider an MMORPG

[Mark]

Seriously, this is like complaining that when you order ice cream at a restaurant they give you the option of getting it in a cone if you pay extra. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET A CONE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, AND ALL YOU'LL BE MISSING OUT ON IS THE CONE THAT YOU DON'T WANT ANYWAY!

Have you got something against cones?

 

[Umbran]

I wonder what would happen if we used that analogy on you... Would probably get me banned, just not worth it in my opinion. A word that Eric's grandma won't mind though is 'clueless'.

That's enough of that!

Cergorach, you know the rules. Insults and name calling are not allowed. Don't post in this thread again.

Everyone else - you also know the rules. Treat each other with respect. This should go double when you all know folks are a little uptight about stuff now.

 

[jdrakeh]

Pay for online access to games (and other content), play games online, gotta pay subscription rates to play... sounds a lot like the model for MMORG to me.

Is GURPS an MMORPG, too? They've been charging for optional online support for years.

 

[F4NBOY]

If you allow me, I'll just repeat what I posted in another thread, i think it fits better in this one.
"Concearning playing D&D through a computer, I'm pretty happy all of you, or most of you guys, have a local friendly group to play with.
I had one all my gaming life, but now I had to move to another town, with no friends to play with, yet.
So when people starts whinning "oh they want us to play through a computer" or "ohh D&D is a face to face game" "oh they want to kill the social interaction" "ohhh no they are turning D&D into a mmorpg", I feel very pissed off.
I'm very happy to be able to play the game with my old buddies through the internet. I know there are tons of software out there to do it, but now i got the real deal. "

I hope that thing really works the way they want it to work. I hope they are successful and get a lot of money, so they can improve it even more.

I'll keep the heated part in the other thread, since this thread is almost in flames.
Thank you.

 

[king_ghidorah]

There is plenty of offline (at least out of game) WoW stuff to browse through. There are areas/information that only subscribers get access to. But you are right, you cant play offline, but somehow I doubt you can play these online d&d games offline either. That is the nature of online games. duh

But the D&D game is not an online game. Some games are online. Some 3rd edition games RIGHT NOW are online. Some 2ed and 1ed and OD&D and GURPS and Hero and every other game, too.

Offering tools to allow online play does not make the D&D GAME and online RPG. Period.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

wait, cant you download d&d insider as drm files at the end of every month? i thought i heard something like that.

Also any time you view something on your computer, their is a way to keep it on your computer, weather the provider wants you to or not....just saying.

its not paper, but its not immutable

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I just leveled up in TiVo twice today. W00t!

Everything is going online. Classified ads, personal ads, car sales, house sales, news, dirty pictures and stories, movie rentals, movie viewing. Being surprised or offended that D&D is joining the rest of the universe is pretty pointless, IMO, and fighting it is like trying to empty the sea with a bucket.

 

[SHARK]

I just leveled up in TiVo twice today. W00t!

Everything is going online. Classified ads, personal ads, car sales, house sales, news, dirty pictures and stories, movie rentals, movie viewing. Being surprised or offended that D&D is joining the rest of the universe is pretty pointless, IMO, and fighting it is like trying to empty the sea with a bucket.

Greetings!

Excellent point, Whizbang. I have discussed some of my frustrations with the arrival of 4E in other threads. However, getting with the program digitally and using computers and software and the internet and all that jazz to improve and develop the game, and open up new opportunities to the gaming community sure isn't one of them.

I think it's great! It's about damn time, too. There were so many discussions about this kind of thing back when they announced 3.0 and E-Tools. However, WOTC effed that golden opportunity up then, and fell on their sword by missing an opportunity to exploit new technology with 3.5E.

So, hopefully, this time--they will actually get with the program and do it right.

As for all these different people complaining about that particular aspect, well...really now. It shouldn't surprise anyone. Like you said, everything in our whole society is either shifting to the internet or being hugely enhanced by it in some way. Technology changes, and the hobby does as well.

The idea of paying for it being such a huge problem...."OH, NO!!!! I have to PAY $10 effing dollars PER MONTH to play a game????"--or whatever hyperbole they want to use, is really missing the mark in my view.

A damned *coffee* at STARBUCKS can cost $5 dollars!!!!!!

So, really, $10 dollars a month, $20 dollars a month, to access all this digital stuff for gaming, connecting, building campaigns, and so on--really is *cheap* and a very good deal. More people should be happy about this, and re-evaluate how much they spend on all kinds of other things...routinely--as a comparison.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

 

[Asmor]

Everything is going online. [snip] dirty pictures and stories

Hey now, dirty pictures didn't just go online... Dirty pictures made online. The adult film industry's always been pushing the edge of technology, and chances are everything that you take for granted today was, if not innovated, perfected by porn.

Well, almost everything... AFAIK they've never given DRM a serious look.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

for those who really want paper version, but dont have the cash to print (and who really has pro printers anyway) one can get a gig pen drive for around 17$. each pen drive can hold around 16 books worth. for the price of a full d&d book (msrp) You could have 2 pen drives with 16 books (one is backup). Thats a pretty cheap way to make sure that you don't loose your books.

I know its not the same, but I also know its not as bad as some make it out to be.