CAn you ride your own tensors floating disk?

dont forget the +1 to attack while mounted and a heavy opponent might just be able to step on the disk to end it prematurely ;)
 

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Scion said:
dont forget the +1 to attack while mounted and a heavy opponent might just be able to step on the disk to end it prematurely ;)
Oh my! You're right! How could I have missed that: you could stand on the disk, and - being higher than your opponent - gain a +1 to your attack rolls! Good lord! Soon everyone will be attacking from atop their Disks of Doom!

Quick! Close the loop-hole before it's too late! (and keep Nail away from that coffee.....)
 

Rel said:
By using the Share Spells ability of the caster's familiar, one might cast TFD and have it follow the familiar around. So long as the familiar does not move more than 5 feet from the caster that is. Thus is born the "Toad Drawn Invisible Chariot".

I think it takes a pretty narrow reading of the rules to disallow this but that is simply my opinion. I will say that if the caster had a particularly fast familiar (like a hawk for example), I would still restrict the rate of movement to that of the caster as he is the one that actually cast the spell in the first place. Although I might also enjoy having the player make balance checks each round as the hawk drags the caster along at 40 miles an hour. ;)

ROFL! :lol: :lol:
 

Nail said:
I dunno.....looking at it that way, I'm not sure sitting on your own Floating Disk is "misusing/munchkinizing" a 1st level spell. I mean: whoop-dee-dee.

Actually, there's another difference.

Tenser's Floating Disk said:
It floats along horizontally within spell range and will accompany you at a rate of no more than your normal speed each round.

To me, this means that, for an otherwise normal humanoid, the disk will move 30' per round - not 30' per move action.

This means that a 1st-level caster could conceivably outrun his disk by taking a double move.

In other words, the disk is *slow* and it doesn't get faster if you do - so watch out if you cast Expeditious Retreat.

This could also be construed as support for the "riding your disk" argument, as it would be a move-equivalent action to direct it. It would therefore prevent you from taking double moves on your turn, and would likewise prevent you from Withdrawing.

So while it would provide measurable out-of-combat benefits, as soon as a battle started you'd be in trouble.
 

Rel said:
By using the Share Spells ability of the caster's familiar, one might cast TFD and have it follow the familiar around. So long as the familiar does not move more than 5 feet from the caster that is. Thus is born the "Toad Drawn Invisible Chariot".

I think it takes a pretty narrow reading of the rules to disallow this but that is simply my opinion.

I don't think it's all that narrow...

Share Spells: At the master’s option, he may have any spell (but not any spell-like ability) he casts on himself also affect his familiar. Additionally, the master may cast a spell with a target of “You” on his familiar (as a touch range spell) instead of on himself.

Tenser's Floating Disk
Effect:
3-ft.-diameter disk of force


TFD is neither "cast on himself" or "a spell with a target of You", and therefore cannot be Shared. You can't share a Project Image, for example, for the same reason.

-Hyp.
 

Lord Pendragon said:
I should try this reasoning with my DM.

"But my paladin thinks he can grant himself a +5 bonus from Divine Favor, so he can!"

Somehow, I don't think the baddies will be impressed. :p

You could try. But I doubt your paladin could convince himself he could do it. And, if he did, he'd probably convince himself it takes something more, like a temporary "spell" boost granted to him by his "god".

After all, he's already convinced himself he can do similiar things with a certain power level. Trying to refute that can be risky, he could loose his belief in what he can already do.
 

ARandomGod said:
After all, he's already convinced himself he can do similiar things with a certain power level. Trying to refute that can be risky, he could loose his belief in what he can already do.

That's why we have a Bard with Modify Memory handy :)

-Hyp.
 


Hypersmurf said:
That's why we have a Bard with Modify Memory handy :)
Sweet. I have a 9th-level bard in an on-again, off-again campaign right now. Soon as I hit tenth, I'm going to modify myself into phenomenal cosmic power! :p
 

Lord Pendragon said:
Sweet. I have a 9th-level bard in an on-again, off-again campaign right now. Soon as I hit tenth, I'm going to modify myself into phenomenal cosmic power! :p

It'll work too.
If you modify enough memory, everyone will accept the fact that you've been playing a level 17883 god of reality altering. Just like it says on your sheet.

"Of course the spell does that. It's a custom spell, It's already been allowed. Now ON YOUR KNEES or I shall SMITE YOU!"

DM: Well guys, he's right, I do remember allowing it... Right when I ... when..

?_?
 

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