Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
There is no such rule in D&D.A rule that makes a reallife player uncomfortable because it mischaracterizes their identity, whether gender or ethnicity, is an evil.
There is no such rule in D&D.A rule that makes a reallife player uncomfortable because it mischaracterizes their identity, whether gender or ethnicity, is an evil.
They sort of did limit their proficiency on page 45. I suppose they should have mentioned it again under the class description just to clarify. Even then, that's not a hard ban. Maybe they assumed we all knew the lore/rules from previous versions. At the least, some hard consequences (ie. No shape shift) or something.This whole stupid thread would have been way better if they hadn't placed a random piece of fluff into the RULE section.
If they didn't want Druid to wear half-plates they should have just limited their proficiencies instead of this BS half-baked solution that is not written like a rule at all.
Page 45 is a synopsis of the rules, not rules. The rules are on page 65 where it does clarify, and there is no limitation to proficiency.They sort of did limit their proficiency on page 45. I suppose they should have mentioned it again under the class description just to clarify. Even then, that's not a hard ban. Maybe they assumed we all knew the lore/rules from previous versions. At the least, some hard consequences (ie. No shape shift) or something.
Can you tone it down on the evil talk. And equating metal armor bans on druids to real life societal problems is completely off base.Likewise the mountain dwarf armor-wearing racial trait breaks the Druid class proficiencies.
There is just no room for a house rule that pretends a Druid neva eva eva wears metal.
And such an intolerant house rule is bad for D&D gaming.
Reallife D&D players need to be free from someone elses reallife opinions about how religions work.
Likewise, players need to be personally COMFORTABLE with the character concepts that they are playing. They need to be able to build their own character concepts that make sense to them, that they can identify with.
The house rule that unconditionally forbids metal armor under any circumstance is both ridiculous and an evil.
Can you tone it down on the evil talk. And equating metal armor bans on druids to real life societal problems is completely off base.
If you do, make it clear whether you're asking what people think the rule does or how they would actually run it. As those are often different things.I'd make a poll thread about it but it would just devolve into arguments. Maybe once this thread gets locked?
As a minority (even though I don't speak for all minorities obviously), I will unequivocally state that I am NOT offended in anyway if your druid wears metal armor, disdains the use of metal armor, you allow druids to wear metal armor, you don't allow it, or if you throw the meta armor away and don't recycle it.The recent discussions about minority ethnic groups needing to feel comfortable when playing D&D and having control over their own player character concepts, includes ethnic groups with minority religions. Players must be able to decide for themselves which religious tropes make sense to them or not.
Every player needs to feel comfortable.
Same.As a minority (even though I don't speak for all minorities obviously), I will unequivocally state that I am NOT offended in anyway if your druid wears metal armor, disdains the use of metal armor, you allow druids to wear metal armor, you don't allow it, or if you throw the meta armor away and don't recycle it.
Likewise the mountain dwarf armor-wearing racial trait breaks the Druid class proficiencies.
There is just no room for a house rule that pretends a Druid neva eva eva wears metal.
And such an intolerant house rule is bad for D&D gaming.
Reallife D&D players need to be free from someone elses reallife opinions about how religions work.
Likewise, players need to be personally COMFORTABLE with the character concepts that they are playing. They need to be able to build their own character concepts that make sense to them, that they can identify with.
The house rule that unconditionally forbids metal armor under any circumstance is both ridiculous and an evil.
Rules don't say that. Half plate is metal armour and rules say druids don't wear that.
And if they didn't mean half plate to be metal armour, they wouldn't have written it is metal.
Seriously, just stop. You think they just put rules that the don't intend to do anything in the game, I don't.
So following the rules of the game and expecting players to do the same (or face consequences as determined by the DM) is evil?