Casino Royale - Best 007 movie in years [some spoilers]

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I loved the parkour chase in the beginning. Should have used more of Sebastien rather than what they did...

 

[Klaus]

Wow! Talk about taste differences!


Neither Michelle Yeoh or Jinx came anywhere near Honey Ryder or Pussy Galore, but I certaonly wouldn;t rank Michelle Yeoh above Halle Berry. To me, Halle Berry beats Mihelle Yeoh by miles, but still falls short of a LOT of other Bond girls by an equal number of miles.

And Teri Hatcher - as Lois Lane or a Bond Girll, she never interetsed me.

Taste Difference Alert! Honey Ryder all the way! By about a billion miles!

Oh, but Ursula Andress, Barbara Bach or Jane Seymour shouldn't even be questioned! What am I, a bloody heretic?

But I must say, Halle Berry holds no attraction to me, and I quite liked the female chinese Jane Bond they had going with Michelle Yeoh (who, incidently, was Miss Asia in the past). Now, if Jinx was played by, say, the black woman that played Joey's girlfriend in "Friends"... hubba-hubba!

 

[RangerWickett]

Saw it, thought it was awesome. The segment between the first climax and the second climax dragged too long, though.

And yes, with James Bond, you can climax twice.

Oh wait, I'm not at Circvs Maximvs anymore, am I? *grin*

 

[BrooklynKnight]

I dunno, with this movie it was more then twice.

The music and editing was absolutly fantastic. I stuck around after the credits to listen to one of my favorite themes in the world and saw the movie was editied in avid (w00t w00t).

Really, this movie rocked. There were a FEW slow parts that seperated the action scenes just a "tad" but it was ok. The opening theme song was great too. Seeing what sinks bond into being an untrusting pit of a tool for Mi6 is great.

Oh and some of the lines and dialog!

"I have an ich.....down there...could you scratch it!!"

"Thank you thank you but, a bit more to the right!"

 

[horacethegrey]

Oh and some of the lines and dialog!

"I have an ich.....down there...could you scratch it!!"

"Thank you thank you but, a bit more to the right!"

GREAT LINES. But they were topped off by this brilliant zinger:

BOND: Now the whole world will know that you died scratching my balls.

The torture scene was a revelation, in that it effectively showed audiences that "this isn't your daddy's Jame's Bond anymore". Before, we had a Bond who was above it all. Nothing seemed to bother him. It was like his missions were just weekend jaunts with a bunch explosions and hot women mixed in. Plus his adversaries were a bunch of dandies he could have a glass of wine of with if they weren't trying to kill him there and then.

Now it's diffirent. Now, he can be hurt, he can be broken (mentally and physically), and his adversary here is just one desperate and nasty guy. With these factors in place, the stakes are now real, and theres a real genuine sense of excitement. I can't wait!

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

Now it's diffirent. Now, he can be hurt, he can be broken (mentally and physically), ...

I'm remembering the Brosnan Bond movie that began with him being tortured in North Korea and he came out a broken man. :\

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Now it's different. Now, he can be hurt, he can be broken (mentally and physically), and his adversary here is just one desperate and nasty guy. With these factors in place, the stakes are now real, and theres a real genuine sense of excitement. I can't wait!

Thats the thing though. It WAS Different. Remember, Casino Royal is based on the first book. Its basically the origin of James Bond. Now we understand WHY he CANT be broken any longer.

And just to point something out, the movie shows he couldn't be broken physically, or mentally, he was broken emotionally. And when he realized just what happened because he let down his guard, because he let go, that was it.

He allowed himself to fall in love, and she betrayed him and got herself killed. Thats the end of the line for him. M says it best.. "You don't trust anyone do you?"
Bond: "Not anymore...."
M: "Good, then you've learned your lesson..."

Which is exactly her point. He needed to learn that lesson. I don't expect he'll ever get "attached" again. This is why he treats women as disposabal playthings.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

I'm remembering the Brosnan Bond movie that began with him being tortured in North Korea and he came out a broken man. :\

I remember it diffrently. He never broke, never revealed state secrets. He took the torture for like 2 years like a man. Like Bond. Till he could escape. Then he went off on a personal mission of revenge.

 

[horacethegrey]

Thats the thing though. It WAS Different. Remember, Casino Royal is based on the first book. Its basically the origin of James Bond. Now we understand WHY he CANT be broken any longer.

Fair point. But while Bond as you say, cannot be broken any longer because of the events that transpired here, he can still feel the scars. Which is what I enjoyed about this film, it's sense of the real danger Bond faces and the consequences. The guy puts his ass on the line and has the marks to show for it. First is the fight on the stairwell with the two black guys, he has to go back to his room and clean all the blood up while downing a glass of scotch or two to dull the pain. Then there's the torture scene, where 007 gets his balls whacked repeatedly and has to spend some time to recover to get his mojo back.

That's what most of the Bond films in the last 30 or so years have been lacking, a sense of realism in terms of the danger to Bond himself. I don't wanna see him imprisoned by the bad guy in some luxury suite just so he could dine with him and hear the baddie's master plan, after which said baddie puts 007 in some elaborate death trap of which there's some hidden flaw which Bond can exploit in order to escape. I wanna now see the bad guy imprison 007 in the darkest pit and hand him his ass repeatedly until he talks, during which Bond will proceed to piss off the baddie with a smirk and then the bad guy will put out a gun to put him out of his misery. That's the kind of attitude I want for the series as a whole.

I'm remembering the Brosnan Bond movie that began with him being tortured in North Korea and he came out a broken man.

That was actually one of the few things I liked in Die Another Day. It was such a change to see Bond captured by the enemy and have himself tortured for one year in an effort to fish out his secrets. Too bad the rest of the film didn't keep in line with that attitude. :\

 

[Klaus]

Broken? In Die Another Day he paraded into a classy hotel, demanded a room, a tailor to make him a new suit and a fancy dinner.

Hardly "broken".