Casino Royale - Best 007 movie in years [some spoilers]

[Brown Jenkin]

My thing is when i go to see a bond movie i want to see bond. I want to see the suped up cars, over the top spy action and comic book like villians. The good movies always had a good balance of these elements and were not over the top.

I love the more serious spy movies but if I pay to see a bond movie i want to see a bond movie, not a bond movie pretend to be like another movie.

Agreed

 

[horacethegrey]

My thing is when i go to see a bond movie i want to see bond. I want to see the suped up cars, over the top spy action and comic book like villians. The good movies always had a good balance of these elements and were not over the top.

I love the more serious spy movies but if I pay to see a bond movie i want to see a bond movie, not a bond movie pretend to be like another movie.

Most people are tired of such things, which is why the producers opted for this, a much more serious take on 007.

And like it or not, the Bourne movies pretty much changed the public's perception on what a spy movie should be. The producers would be fools indeed not to follow suit. I'm sorry if you think that isn't fair, but thats how it goes. And frankly, I'm all for it. If they can come up with more films like Casino Royale, then bring it on.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Most people are tired of such things, which is why the producers opted for this, a much more serious take on 007.

And like it or not, the Bourne movies pretty much changed the public's perception on what a spy movie should be. The producers would be fools indeed not to follow suit. I'm sorry if you think that isn't fair, but thats how it goes. And frankly, I'm all for it. If they can come up with more films like Casino Royale, then bring it on.

We shall see.If it makes less than 120 Million Domestic and 350+ Million worldwide then it will be a failure compared to the old formula. So far it has debut second to Happy Feet although with a respectable number. We shall see with this weekends dropoff which way it is likely to go.

 

[bytor4232]

My thing is when i go to see a bond movie i want to see bond. I want to see the suped up cars, over the top spy action and comic book like villians. The good movies always had a good balance of these elements and were not over the top.

I love the more serious spy movies but if I pay to see a bond movie i want to see a bond movie, not a bond movie pretend to be like another movie.

Most people are tired of such things, which is why the producers opted for this, a much more serious take on 007.

And like it or not, the Bourne movies pretty much changed the public's perception on what a spy movie should be. The producers would be fools indeed not to follow suit. I'm sorry if you think that isn't fair, but thats how it goes. And frankly, I'm all for it. If they can come up with more films like Casino Royale, then bring it on.

I'll second that. I'll take my Bond more Bourne any day. If I wanted to see a cheesey Bond movie, I'd rent one of the classics with Roger Moore in it.

 

[Klaus]

Hopefully, this new direction will find a balance between the Bondness and the Bourneness.

 

[Tinker Gnome]

I liked it, it just ended like 9999999999999999999999999999999999999 times.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

I always just looked at it that there were a lot of guys who took the name "James Bond" upon entering the service, and I personally doubt that the British government has "dark hair" as a job requirement.

So is the name "Felix Leiter" the CIA equivalent of the psuedonym "James Bond" then?

(Speaking of, I was glad to see that Jeffrey Wright was playing Felix Leiter. I saw his name in the credits, and kept wondering when and where he would appear. When I saw him at the casino, I was like- cool! But then he didn't do anything for so long, I couldn't understand it. When he caught Bond before he did something rash, and introduced himself, I was jazzed.)

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Lets keep this all in context. This was the 60s and 70s and when i say cheesieness that is what I"m talking about. The novels were very much cheesy compared to today and they are pretty much in line with the movies.

If you're talking about the Ian Fleming novels, they weren't cheesy at all. As bytor4232 points out, the novels had very little in the way of gadgetry and silliness (no silliness in fact). They were straight up spy novels- pretty gritty, too. The Bond from Ian Fleming's novels isn't the suave ladies man that showed up in the later movies (as mostly exemplified by Roger Moore, though Connery's sex appeal was purposely played up in his post-Dr. No movies as well). He's a pretty rough and tumble character.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

So, how many thought that Mr. White at the end worked for Specter?

I thought it would be that or else SMERSH, which was the organization from the novel Casino Royale

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

If you're talking about the Ian Fleming novels, they weren't cheesy at all. As bytor4232 points out, the novels had very little in the way of gadgetry and silliness (no silliness in fact). They were straight up spy novels- pretty gritty, too. The Bond from Ian Fleming's novels isn't the suave ladies man that showed up in the later movies (as mostly exemplified by Roger Moore, though Connery's sex appeal was purposely played up in his post-Dr. No movies as well). He's a pretty rough and tumble character.

Yeah, I wish they would redo every movie Roger Moore made along the lines of the actual novels. They changed plots enough that many aren't even recognizable (Moonraker, Thunderball ...).