Casting on the Defensive and Spell Loss?

[Nifelhein]

Okay I was reading the 3.5 SRD and saw that my group may be using Castin on the Defensive in a wrong manner, by what I understood if you fail the concentration check to cast on the defensive you loose your spell, is this right?

I am asking because we have always used the rule in a way that if you fail the concentration check you would then be subject to AoO, which would call for a concentration check that could result in loss of the spell, but not necessarily.

I want to know if Casting on the Defensive means loss of spell if you fail, if it was like this on 3.0 or if it a 3.5 addition.

Thanks guys, I am gonna start a campaign soon and am re-reading the rules so I am up to date with them.

 

[Magic Slim]

3.0 Was if you fail your Casting on the Defensive roll, you lost the spell but did not suffer an AoO.

3.5 seems to be the same:

Casting Defensively: If you want to cast a spell without provoking any attacks of opportunity, you must make a Concentration check (DC 15 + the level of the spell you’re casting) to succeed. You lose the spell if you fail.

Slim

 

[Nifelhein]

3.0 Was if you fail your Casting on the Defensive roll, you lost the spell but did not suffer an AoO.

3.5 seems to be the same:

Yeah I thought so, that part of the rule I missed the very first time I read the books just when they were released, too many changes to be sure about everything then.

Thanks!

 

[dcollins]

Okay I was reading the 3.5 SRD and saw that my group may be using Castin on the Defensive in a wrong manner, by what I understood if you fail the concentration check to cast on the defensive you loose your spell, is this right?

Sounds like you now understand it -- it's been that way in both 3.0 and 3.5.

Obligatory grammar note: In English the proper word is "lose your spell". The word "loose" means something different (it's an adjective, not a verb).

 

[Hypersmurf]

The word "loose" means something different (it's an adjective, not a verb).

It's an adjective and a verb. And also an adverb and a noun.

But you're right in that he was using it incorrectly - its common use as a verb is "to set free".

-Hyp.

 

[Nifelhein]

Hey thanks! I didn't even noticed I wrote it that way and that shows how your absence of practice can trick you.

Edit: better get some sleep, I am writing even worse now...