Castle Greyhawk?

[MerricB]

ONLY if its better then the last one!!! I was actually playing a character that I liked when I got suckered into that one. that was just bad. lots of really REALLY bad puns. **shudders**

My sympathies are with you.

That was the one before the last one, actually - WG7, Castle Greyhawk.

Cheers!

 

[Welverin]

WGR1 Greyhawk Ruins was created during one of the short-lived revivals of the World of Greyhawk line by TSR. It's a big (really big) dungeon crawl. Its relationship to the Gygaxian original is tenuous at best.

Not a dungeon crawl, just a dungeon. I'd say it's like Undermountain for the Realms, a big dungeon all laid out and detailed for the DM, but he has to invent the reason for the PC's to go there and what the point of it all is.

 

[grodog]

Rob's back in action, and has been in touch with Gary about working on the Castle.

For past updates, check Rob's Pied Piper message boards; check the Alchemy forum at http://pub175.ezboard.com/fpiedpiperpublishingfrm4
Gary had been keeping the PPP readers up to date on the Castle in the thread within The Colonel's Corner at http://pub175.ezboard.com/fpiedpiperpublishingfrm11

Scott Gregg has also dedicated a forum to this topic in the Dragonsfoot Greyhawk forum at http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3236

 

[Welverin]

Rob's back in action, and has been in touch with Gary about working on the Castle.[/url]

Yeah! Now we need a publisher to step up and support the project.

 

[Arnwyn]

I'm going to take a page from Teflon Billy's book (when he talks about Fields of Blood) and say that the likelihood of Castle Greyhawk ever being published is the same as the likelihood of the moon crashing into the earth in our lifetime. This product will never, ever see the light of day.

Two full years of work on a dungeon that's essentially already done (it's been played in for more than 25 years)? Yo-kay... *that's* going to happen... Ed Greenwood could spit out another Undermountain faster.

(Now I sincerely hope that I will be proven wrong. Nyah-nyah-nyahs are not only encouraged, they are expected!)

 

[Henry]

Two full years of work on a dungeon that's essentially already done (it's been played in for more than 25 years)? Yo-kay... *that's* going to happen... Ed Greenwood could spit out another Undermountain faster.

"Already done" might be a bit incorrect. According to Gary, as I noted, it's somewhere between scribbled notes on different pieces of paper, hand-drawn maps, ideas in Gary's head, ideas in Rob's head and notebooks, etc. It's coherent enough for Gary to drag out maps and notes and run it himself, but an actually slick published product that is written in the English language and understandable to someone who doesn't speak Gary-ese and Rob-ese? It's VERY far from that (unless Gary's been very industrious on it in the past year).

 

[Arnwyn]

"Already done" might be a bit incorrect. According to Gary, as I noted, it's somewhere between scribbled notes on different pieces of paper, hand-drawn maps, ideas in Gary's head, ideas in Rob's head and notebooks, etc. It's coherent enough for Gary to drag out maps and notes and run it himself, but an actually slick published product that is written in the English language and understandable to someone who doesn't speak Gary-ese and Rob-ese? It's VERY far from that (unless Gary's been very industrious on it in the past year).

Yes, I've been told that. And it takes 2 full years of work for that? Hmph. Full length super-modules are released in far less time (and those were started from *scratch*, not with 25 years of playtesting, notes, and full concept already *complete*).

Hmph, again.

 

[PatEllis15]

Yes, I've been told that. And it takes 2 full years of work for that? Hmph. Full length super-modules are released in far less time (and those were started from *scratch*, not with 25 years of playtesting, notes, and full concept already *complete*).

Hmph, again.

I find it amusing to read such posts... So many people who now play D&D weren't even born when AD&D was first published, and there was talk in Dragon about the publishing of Castle Greyhawk....

I read on another board that EGG expected that Castle Greyhawk would get detailed out in EIGHT volumes of 125-150 pages... This is the MOTHER of all dungeons. Producing 1 such supplement (about the size of RttToEE) per quarter would be pretty good.

Taro Sarask

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[grodog]

Truthfully, I'd be happy with any books, at any rate. One book per year would be really slow, but it would be better than nothing

 

[johnsemlak]

I find it amusing to read such posts... So many people who now play D&D weren't even born when AD&D was first published, and there was talk in Dragon about the publishing of Castle Greyhawk....

Hmmm... Which Dragon was that?

I read on another board that EGG expected that Castle Greyhawk would get detailed out in EIGHT volumes of 125-150 pages... This is the MOTHER of all dungeons. Producing 1 such supplement (about the size of RttToEE) per quarter would be pretty good.

I'm no industry expert, but everything I've read on various messageboards indicates that releasing CG (or any similar project) in 8 volumes wouldn't be viable (as I understand, it would be closer to disaster, but I really don't know). Adventures don't sell well in general. Nowadays the primary format for an adventure that seems to work is the large, single-volume mega-adventure/setting (examples--Necropolis, Vault of Larin Karr, Black Sails of Freeport, and upcoming Lost City of Barakus.) Now, it may be impossible to boil CG down to such a size, but that may just make it nearly impossible to publish.