CCF refused D&D donations

[jaerdaph]

Some days I thank God I'm an atheist...

 

[Rykion]

Can anyone direct me to copy sent by the Christian Children's Fund?

Everything I've read through so far by following links has been hearsay and speculation as to the cause of them declining the donation.

- Marty Lund

I doubt anyone has put the actual communication online, but the group that runs the auction mention that D&D was the reason it was turned down here:Live Game Auctions -Charity

 

[RefinedBean]

Hrm. I don't ever remember the CCF being like that...so long as it's money to help children and not in the name of 1. Satan or 2. Homosexuals for the Conversion of All Other People to Homosexuality, then they usually don't care.

Do we have confirmation that this WAS the reason they denied the donation?

 

[mlund]

I doubt anyone has put the actual communication online, but the group that runs the auction mention that D&D was the reason it was turned down here:Live Game Auctions -Charity

Yeah, I came across that. It gives me the auction group's one-sentence opinion, not a quote or any real information. I'd like to know the details of the objection. Being the rotten, skeptical scoundrel that I am I'm left with questions and suspicions that actual evidence or facts would be useful in fielding. Most importantly, "sales of Dungeons and Dragons" is the key issue I'd like to be expounded upon. If the objection is strictly to the brand as a whole I'd be surprised and disappointed. If, on the other hand, the objection had to do with certain products (for examples, "The Book of Erotic Fantasy," or "The Pleasure Prison of the B'thuvian Demon Whore") being in the auction it would paint a different picture for me. On yet another hand ("I found this in the back") if their objection had something to do with, say, Hasbro (the makers of D&D) as a company that would present things in yet another light.

As they say, "the devil is in the details."

I'd like said details before I summarily file them in my "Jack Chick" bin.

Trust but verify.

- Marty Lund

 

[guivre]

That's funny. I made a point not to participate because of the charity in question, and they turned down the money anyway.

 

[Simon Atavax]

Yeah, I came across that. It gives me the auction group's one-sentence opinion, not a quote or any real information. I'd like to know the details of the objection. Being the rotten, skeptical scoundrel that I am I'm left with questions and suspicions that actual evidence or facts would be useful in fielding. Most importantly, "sales of Dungeons and Dragons" is the key issue I'd like to be expounded upon. If the objection is strictly to the brand as a whole I'd be surprised and disappointed. If, on the other hand, the objection had to do with certain products (for examples, "The Book of Erotic Fantasy," or "The Pleasure Prison of the B'thuvian Demon Whore") being in the auction it would paint a different picture for me. On yet another hand ("I found this in the back") if their objection had something to do with, say, Hasbro (the makers of D&D) as a company that would present things in yet another light.

As they say, "the devil is in the details."

I'd like said details before I summarily file them in my "Jack Chick" bin.

Trust but verify.

- Marty Lund

Tisk, tisk. Marty, your desire for actual verifiable information goes against the entire "Let's Bash Fundamentalist Christians" meme that so many gamers thrive on!

 

[Brown Jenkin]

"The Pleasure Prison of the B'thuvian Demon Whore"

Darn, I missed that one at the auction. Maybe next year.

 

[mlund]

Darn, I missed that one at the auction. Maybe next year.

I just want to be clear: I don't know which products were or were not part of the auction and don't mean to imply they were. I've seen a few "adults only" auction items at conventions in my day but I didn't attend the GenCon 2008 auction. I was busy playing in events.

I'm merely observing that such products exist and that if they were included in such an auction I could understand how it might raise objections from a charity, and how said objections could be summarized as objections to "the sale of Dungeons and Dragons products." I use this as an example of possibilities that make me want to have more information on the matter before making a judgment.

- Marty Lund

 

[thalmin]

Please don't let this keep anyone from making a donation to a worthwhile charity. The kids still need the money. But, if you want to make donations "in memory of E. Gary Gygax, creator of Dungeons & Dragons" you can make your point where it counts. Let them refuse if they want, but they will see how much their stance could cost them.
Again, the kids still need the donations.

 

[Erik Mona]

Obviously, as this was Gygax's favorite charity, it makes sense that Gen Con chose CCF for last year's event. But I've got to say, I think it's a terrible idea to tie corporate donations to a cause that is intimately tied to a religious or political concern. It's just asking for trouble, as you cannot be sure that all of the participants/donors will be of the same beliefs/political bent, and thus some people might be dissuaded from donating.

It'd be like having a charity auction with all of the proceeds going to the Obama campaign, or something. I mean, great, from my perspective, but inappropriate for a lot of potential donors.

--Erik