D&D 5E celebrating pride and lgbtq+ players 2021

Umbran

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Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I will amend my statement to "You have definitely missed their point."
As in you didn't even understand it. You & they are talking about two entirely different things.

And what purpose is this clarification? To make you feel better that you failed to understand my point.

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Okay, that's enough. Break it up you two. Neither of you is adding to the thread with this; so if you continue, you will be removed from the discussion.
 

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Yeah, it would be, but I'm deeply cynical about corporate pride efforts. I'll honestly be shocked if there ISN'T some sort of D&D logo in pride colors in the offering.

You may be a little out of the loop, then, because this is the 4th year that WotC has made special Pride D&D shirts. For this year:

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ECMO3

Hero
You’ve never had married NPCs? NPCs with male and female parents? An elderly couple running a tavern? Featured a wedding? Had a kingdom ruled by a king and queen? In 40 years?

Well, good for you. I guess, but that does make you very much an outlier.
First off, no I can not recall ever marrying NPCs or PCs in a game, but even if I did that is hardly relevant. There absolutely have been a man and woman running a tavern and there have been multiple women and multiple men running the taverns too. Whether or not these couples were shagging when the lights went out has never come up in my games and whether or not they were trans or cis or non-binary has never come up either and saying it hasn't come up is not the same as saying they were hetero/cis.

Further, just because a man marries a woman does not mean they are heterosexual, nor does it mean that they are cisgender. In the real world, there are many homosexual people in married to someone of the opposite sex and as a matter of fact I bet there are more homosexuals and bisexuals married to someone of the opposite sex than there are homosexuals and bisexuals married to same-sex partners. There are many transgenders that are married as well. They are already there and represented and if you had a story with a marriage in it there is not reason to think they weren't.

The fact that a marriage happened does not imply that LGBTQIA+ are not represented.

I don't think I am an outlier.

Now if you play a porno version of D&D with explicit graphic sex or description of genitals, then yes you may not have a truly inclusive game if your descriptions and situation are not broad and inclusive, but I think people that play those kind of games are the ones that are outliers.
 
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ECMO3

Hero
So, no, 40 years is not plausible to avoid human relationship in every D&D session but not totally impossible.
I never said I avoided human relationship, but I have never had sexual preference or gender identity come up either (beyond the gender defined and written on the character sheet).
 

ECMO3

Hero
For example, 🙂 generic smiley... What gender is it? What race? What sexuality? Of course there is none, but our brains provide one anyways. And usually that identity is one that is already overwhelmingly represented in media.
Exactly. It is not heterosexual, not homosexual, not a man, not a woman. My brain certainly does not say your smiley is a heterosexual man.

Moreover, I have played characters who actually changed genders in game, and this was even featured in Forgotten Realms video game 22 years ago (and maybe even earlier?).
 

Faolyn

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Now if you play a porno version of D&D with explicit graphic sex or description of genitals, then yes you may not have a truly inclusive game if your descriptions and situation are not broad and inclusive, but I think people that play those kind of games are the ones that are outliers.
There is a huge difference between playing a character whose background or interests are detailed enough to warrant including their sexual, gender, or romantic identities, and playing an porno game. Most people who decide their character is straight, gay, cis, trans, or whatever are capable of telling that difference and don't play ERP.
 

ECMO3

Hero
There is a huge difference between playing a character whose background or interests are detailed enough to warrant including their sexual, gender, or romantic identities, and playing an porno game. Most people who decide their character is straight, gay, cis, trans, or whatever are capable of telling that difference and don't play ERP.
Most people have no reason to define themselves as such and unless you are using stereotypes and tropes associated with those "classes" there is no reason for that to even be in your game unless genitals and/or sex are relevant.

What exactly is difference in game between a cisgender woman and a transgender woman?

To put it another way who is to say every Forgotten Realms NPC ever detailed by WOTC ad TSR was not both trans and homosexual? Who are you to say they aren't, and if you claim they aren't what are you basing that on? You can't claim they are cis and hetero unless you use prejudicial stereotypes to make such a judgement.
 

imagineGod

Legend
Yes and it is the only preference I have played or honestly seen played. I think the FR setting already is for the most part asexual.
Truth that and probably the majority of tables with D&D Players. I have never witnessed a kiss in any of my D&D games, because never was that relevant to the mostly questing and finding loot storylines.

Carnal relationships became a thing in those trendy Powered by the Apocalypse Games, which is why I avoided them until Dungeon World brought back traditional questing to PbTA.
 

Wow, you all have played some prudish (not quite the right word) campaigns. I don't think I have ever played in a game where that was not at least one PC hitting on the barmaid when the party went to a tavern, especially in a group full of horny teens. You all must have also never had a dating or married couple in your gaming groups, because a lot of times, those couples end up playing PCs that are also involved together.
 

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