Celestial Codex Series?

[Knightfall]

I'd have to know more. Malhavoc's Anger of Angels has covered the topic already, better, for me, than an evolution of Planescape could.

Anger of Angels is a great book, but I want more celestial goodness! And I want some celestial paragons with teeth! The whole "the celestial paragon's don't have worshippers like the demon lords or archdevils", is lame, IMO. Plus, I want more on angels and how to use them in conjunction with the different pantheons of the D&D Worlds.

Get creative, WotC!

KF72

 

[Vanuslux]

I've come to this thread now several times without being able to decide yes or no so I finally voted undecided. There's just too many factors to consider. Celestials have minimal impact on my setting, so I don't have a huge need for more stuff about them than what I already have in Anger of Angels and The Book of Exalted Deeds.

However, I can't say that I wouldn't look at it on the shelves to see if it would be more useful to me than those others, neither of which I'm terribly satisfied with (Anger of Angels is a phenominally well written product, but push too closely towards real world ideals of Heaven vs. Hell rather than the more fantasy world Celestia vs. the Abyss which I prefer for fantasy games. The Book of Exalted Deeds had the fantasy flavor but in my opinion suffered from trying too hard to be the companion piece to The Book of Vile Darkness (which I loved, but the same approach just didn't work as well for Good as it did for Evil), screwing with the focus and making a lot of it feel kind of forced so the ratio of inspiring/useful-to-uninteresting/unuseful was pretty poor.

Then again, I'm kind of particular about celestial related stuff. It's one of those subjects that makes me sometimes wish I was a d20 publisher so I could hire someone to write a celestial book to my tastes since I'm too lazy to write it myself (I have a hard time writing anything over 5k-10k words since I'm terribly distractable).

 

[MoogleEmpMog]

If it were the choice between a Celestial Codex and nothing, yes.

If it were the choice between a Celestial Codex and a Fiendish Codex III, probably not.

If it were the choice between a Celestial Codex and a book that built upon or converted monsters from any D&D source *other* than the planes, noooooooooooo!

 

[EricNoah]

My opinion: It's one of those things that I think people believe *should* exist ... but in practice not a lot of people would buy it.

 

[Vanuslux]

My opinion: It's one of those things that I think people believe *should* exist ... but in practice not a lot of people would buy it.

Does anyone know how well Book of Exalted Deeds and Anger of Angels sold? That might give some insight into how well celestial books perform. I doubt they're huge hits but I seem to run across a lot of people with BoED so from what I can tell it didn't sell too poorly.

 

[Mechanurge]

Meh. Celestials seem more like NPCs to me than monsters, and there are only so many variations on "fields of happiness and bliss" for the locations for that to be useful. I'd rather have a book of Rilmani, Slaadi and Inevitables, frankly.

 

[Arkhandus]

I'd go for a Celestial Codex series, certainly.

Though, I'd also be satisfied if WotC at least put out a single Planar Codex covering all non-fiendish outsiders/outer-planes of importance. I'd rather much prefer a series of them though, but at least one such book would be nice.

Preferably at least a single Celestial Codex, an Elemental Codex (of all the noteworthy Inner Planes inhabitants though), and a Planar Codex (of all the main inhabitants for the neutral-oriented Outer Planes, and the Transitive Planes, i.e. Slaadi, Rilmani, Inevitables, Modrons, Formians, Mercanes, Githyanki, Githzerai, etc., perhaps even those introduced in the Fiend Folio, such as Ethergaunts, Shadar-Kai, Nerra, and such; and maybe, just maybe, if the stars are properly aligned....horrors from the Far Realms of Insanity?).

At most I'd imagine a trio of Celestial Codices, and a trio of Planar Codices (one for elemental planes, one for inner planes and transitive planes combined (since the transitives themselves have relatively little life), and one for the non-fiendish/non-celestial outer planes; probably released in reverse order, actually, since more folks would be interested in slaadi and inevitables and mercanes and gith-folk).

 

[BigFreekinGoblinoid]

Not from WoTC ( voted NO ) if their treatment in the Book of Exalted Deeds book is typical of what I could expect - worst fluff ever! No plausability at all for the Paragons. Someone else can come up with better motivations and goals. Maybe it would take good vs evil on the great wheel to be truly interesting instead of the security of the Blood War causing Celestials to become bored, direction-less, winged snobs

The Malhavoc book was good, but i liked the Green Ronin celestial flavor too

 

[Heathansson]

I have no use for it. You can't really use them as foes, unless your campaign is evil or you convert them to fallen angels. Hey....I take that back. Might be cool...

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

I vote No. How often are you going to use celestials as opponents? If they aren't opponents, I submit you don't need enough information to fill a codex.