Challenging my high-lvl group (NPCs and monsters; my players shouldn't read this!)

[Knightfall]

Kewl-ell, Knighty!

I aim to please. Just not P'cat's players.

 

[Knightfall]

I aim to please. Just not P'cat's players.

Case in point...

Here is a fallen plantar for you to use P'Cat. Hopefully, you'll have access to all the books I referenced. (Zipped Word document attached.)

Ashy, you'll like this one too. The name is very Planescape-like.

Cheers!

KF72

 

[Spatzimaus]

Not a bump.

No, this is NOT a bump. In no way should you consider this to be a bump. Shame on you.

It's just that Pcat has posted yet another update or two to the story thread, and I figure SOMEONE should ask the obligatory questions. Like:

> Even though he's going to turn up again later in the story thread, can we get a rough idea of what exactly the Worm was? Was it the sort of "I'm not going to bother giving it stats, it's powerful enough to do whatever it wants" thing, or did you actually stat it out? (You know, the usual: 100th level, templates out the wazoo, that sort of thing)

> Now that Teliez is a god, can he finally pick up chicks without killing them? (In the case of undead chicks, add "again" to that question) And have you made up HIS stats yet? Because, even though they helped him become a god, I can't see the now paladin-heavy DoD getting along too well with his new followers...

> I should probably know this one, but if a nonbeliever dies, do they go to the plane closest to their alignment, the Outlands/Sigil, or do they just disappear? And what are the chances Nolin would join Telay and/or Soder as an undead, now that Teliez is in charge of that? (And how would Malachite react?)

> Is it time for Agar's Bachelor Party yet, or are the DoD going to spend valuable time on trivialities like helping the world recover from the cataclysm first? It's been 16 months since we brainstormed that part, and I'm STILL wondering what you pulled out of your hat.

And again no, this isn't a bump.

 

[Piratecat]

Knightfall, thank you for the planetar!

Let's see. A few things that are unresolved -- the Ivory King is in fact an advanced famine spirit from MM2 (substantially changed, though), and Elder is what happens when you take a nightshade/nightcrawler and advance it REALLY far. I worked up stats at one point but they're sort of out there; with a CR somewhere around 30, the only way you want to be taking it on is from the air. Even then, prepare to be swallowed. They weren't meant to be combat foes per se, though, so the stats don't matter too much. I was going to go off of my rough "advanced nightcrawler" notes if anyone tried to take it on.

Teliez is now a full-fledged god and I don't have to worry about stats for him. His minions? Sure. But I don't want the kind of game where PCs are trying to take out the fully divine.

Demigods in my game are like Hercules -- half mortal, half god, sired by god on mortal. They're awfully tough, but they can be killed (as Halcyon found out. Presumptious bitch.) Now that Teliez is divine he can control his father's legacy (poisonous sweat - thanks, Dad.) and can have his own harem of hot vampires if that's what he wants. It's good to be a God. As one of the DoD pointed out, Teliez suffers from a lack of vision and grand planning; he thinks pettily, and thus is a less dangerous foe.

Nolin was transported with the soul of Rides The Sun, and is now soaring over the skies of Elysium cojoined into a true phoenix body. He's pretty happy.

Note that I delayed Agar's wedding by six months or so. Out of game I said "I scheduled this very quickly, but you guys need time to train and deal with the world. Any complaint if I just push it back six months and say it was always then?" No one minded, so we just rescheduled it.

 

[Gomez]

Humm, hello Piratecat. I am a long time reader and first time caller.

I was wondering what where the ablilities of the Crown of Bone before it got blown up?

 

[Piratecat]

Hmm, lets see. Etherealness, unholy aura (not that I remembered to apply the spell effect every time someone hit him, darn it; I think I forgot it half the time before it got dispelled), a big deflection bonus to AC, the ability to turn a living creature directly into a ghoul, and a boost to fast healing.

 

[Spatzimaus]

Teliez is now a full-fledged god and I don't have to worry about stats for him. His minions? Sure. But I don't want the kind of game where PCs are trying to take out the fully divine.

True, but I'm trying to fit it into the Major God-Minor God sort of distinctions. Imbindarla seemed like a reasonably strong/influential goddess, even if she wasn't up at the Aeos level. Is Teliez basically starting from scratch as a really minor god, or did he just completely slide into her entire portfolio? In that case, he'd be stronger than his father, wouldn't he?

And I don't know, but I think Teliez is smart enough to realize that if he can remove the poison sweat AND clean up his appearance in general, he can get a lot more chicks than just vampires. Lots of semi-evil followers wanting to get in on the ground floor, so to speak. Which reminds me: are Imbindarla's followers just going to slide over to him, or are there going to be the usual "dead god" cults? Maybe it's just my take on it, but he doesn't seem evil enough for that; he seemed to lean heavily towards neutrality (or maybe even be neutral leaning to evil), what with the Dylrath relationship and all. "Diet Coke of Evil"?

Note that I delayed Agar's wedding by six months or so. Out of game I said "I scheduled this very quickly, but you guys need time to train and deal with the world. Any complaint if I just push it back six months and say it was always then?" No one minded, so we just rescheduled it.

Please say this means six months in-game, not six months real time. IIRC you use a 1 week/level training time (or 1 week/2 levels?), so if it's just in-game, a lot of that would be spent in abstracted training. Reason I ask is, I've just really been wondering how the whole thing turned out, which of our suggestions you ended up going with. If I have to wait six months to find out, I might go insane... not that the fallout from the White Kingdom won't be impressive, but still.

And if KidCthulhu's new character is a Half-Erinyes/half-Halfling CN priest of Teliez named "Belle" who ends up married to Agar? I'd buy you a pizza.

 

[Piratecat]

Is Teliez basically starting from scratch as a really minor god, or did he just completely slide into her entire portfolio? In that case, he'd be stronger than his father, wouldn't he?

Aeos always had more power than Imbindarla; as always, a chart of the pantheon can be found here. (Lordy, I can't wait until piratecat.info is back in our sweaty little hands; our friend who first got the domain name has both lost the password and the original email address he reserved it from. This is a shame, as the web site is assembled and ready to go as soon as we have somewhere to put it.)

And I don't know, but I think Teliez is smart enough to realize that if he can remove the poison sweat AND clean up his appearance in general, he can get a lot more chicks than just vampires. Lots of semi-evil followers wanting to get in on the ground floor, so to speak.

Some of this will be addressed in Sialia's "Voyage of the White Swallow," playing out in the Early Years thread right now. I'll place the pdf in the main story hour when she's done next week.

Which reminds me: are Imbindarla's followers just going to slide over to him, or are there going to be the usual "dead god" cults?

A combination of the two, but mostly the latter. He's currently in the "lower-lesser-God" category right now, with lots of power but not a lot of divine respect. That'll give him something to do.

Please say this means six months in-game, not six months real time. IIRC you use a 1 week/level training time (or 1 week/2 levels?), so if it's just in-game, a lot of that would be spent in abstracted training.

Yes and no. A lot of side adventures and plot hooks were finished up after this, including a major assault against the mind flayers and some temple politics. We just breezed through six months of training and item creation time, of course (1 week per 2 lvls for training), but a fair amount happened before Agar headed off to the outer planes to meet his contracted bride-to-be. And THAT is quite a story in and of itself -- it's better than you're thinking.

But damn, I'm sorry I lost out on a pizza.

 

[WizarDru]

Aeos always had more power than Imbindarla; as always, a chart of the pantheon can be found here. (Lordy, I can't wait until piratecat.info is back in our sweaty little hands; our friend who first got the domain name has both lost the password and the original email address he reserved it from. This is a shame, as the web site is assembled and ready to go as soon as we have somewhere to put it.)

Inquiring minds want to know:

a. the party opposed Toraz, who is Teliez's dad, yes? This was in the early years?

b. Is it a coincidence that you have a god named Kord? Is he any relation to the Greyhawk deity of the same name (god of Strength and....umm...sports, I guess)? I only ask since it seems like you kept many of the demi-human deities from other settings like CLANGEDDIN! CLANgeddin! Clangeddin! Clangeddin. clangeddin.

 

[Piratecat]

In the big comet adventure I recently mentioned, the PCs found themselves opposed by priests of both Imbindarla and Toraz (God of Murder.) That's where they first met Teliez; he was sent to kill them.

The Torazites eventually decided that the Imbindarlans were freakin' cracked. They switched sides and allied with the Defenders in stopping the Imbindarlans. It was a decidedly uncomfortable alliance that ended up falling apart.

The name Kord is coincidental, at least to my conscious mind. Same thing with the name Eris.