D&D (2024) Check Out The New Dungeon Master's Guide's Greyhawk Map

Greyhawk is the 'sample setting' provided in the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide, and it is illustrated with a massive hex map by the awesome Mike Schley.

 

[haakon1]

Because Flanaess is itself a "continent"

Subcontinent, says I.

Besides, planet Oerth is said to have "four continents" and "four oceans".

Doesn’t the full quote mentions it’s not known what they are.

The continents are Hyperborea (explicitly said to be a continent), Polaria, Antaria, and Oerik. There is no room for a fifth continent.

Not “officially”. That’s the beauty of Greyhawk - DIY.

Regarding Meyer, I love her maps − they are beautiful.

I agree.

 

[DrunkonDuty]

Well, now we can clearly see that the town of Calbutt, in the northern part of Tenh, is very cleary called CALbutt and not CATbutt. Which makes me sad.

Otherwise I quite like it. If they wind up selling this as a stand alone prodcut it might become the first DnD product I've bought this century.

 

[Mannahnin]

Yup, but:
1) Last I remember, R4 (a source for I12) had the Greyhawk references, but they didn’t make a lot of sense and weren’t all that serious as it was an RPGA tournament module. I12 was a compilation of Mentzer’s R tournament handout modules, but I believe without the Greyhawk references.

2) Anna Meyer put it on her map as a continent, but without any details.

3) It’s not on the DA1 Bearskin map, or Chainmail map, or LGG Inset map.

4) Roger Moore says don’t use it, not very good or very Greyhawk. I ageee.

5) The Mentzer Kickstarter failed and there’s a “canceled” thing going on. I forget the details.

6) For my campaign, I’ve decided references to it may exist in the Great Library of Rel Astra, but it doesn’t really exist. Perhaps it was a fraud on the Overking to get money for colonization of a Potemkin colony - a place that doesn’t exist? Hard to know.

Which all goes to my point - outside the Flanaess, it’s a DIY setting.

1. My casual research indicates that I12 does include the references to Aquaria being in Greyhawk, but I don't have a copy and can't verify for sure.
2. Seems reasonable. I suspect she was waiting to see what Frank produced. Maybe not; depends on her standards for canonicity.
3. All of those predate Gary and Frank's agreement, right, which dates from the 80s?
4. I am certainly not going to argue with Roger or you in matters of taste.
5. I know the details. I don't think they're relevant to the discussion, tbf.
6. Seems like a fun way to incorporate it.

 

[Echohawk]

1. My casual research indicates that I12 does include the references to Aquaria being in Greyhawk, but I don't have a copy and can't verify for sure.

If it helps, a text search of the PDF version of I12 gives me nothing for either "Aquaria" or "Greyhawk".

 

[haakon1]

3. All of those predate Gary and Frank's agreement, right, which dates from the 80s?

Bearskin Map is in Dragon Annual 1, I believe 1996.

Chainmail map is 2002 or 2003, but just western Oerik, so probably not relevant. I was thinking of “official” non-Flanaess Oerth maps.

LGG Insert Map is 2000. Insert in the corner of the map in Living Greyhawk.

Definitely all post 1980’s, so various TSR/WotC sources said “no thanks” to Aquaria.

 

[ezo]

Just started a new thread... guess I should have posted it here instead in hindsight.

D&D General - Greyhawk Map Compared to Earth

For a little fun, I took the 2022 map and overlayed it on a map of Earth to get an idea of how large the maps compares. I think the scale is a fairly accurate representation. Obviously there are map projection issues, but this was just for a bit of fun so I'm not overly concerned about that...

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