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Snapped from the Barbarian video.

 

[Parmandur]

Okay let me put that another way, its so baked into the outer planes and more importantly to their trademarks that you'll never remove the Greek Mythology from it.

Sure they can, they don't have to talk about it

 

[Scribe]

And beyond D&D Lore Greco-Roman Mythology is one of the most well known and loved Religious Mythologies in the world, folks that don't know D&D know Greek Mythology.

Yes, the average person in the west knows some of the Greco-Roman Mythology.

The average person doesnt know who Mystra is, doesnt know that Zeus lives in the D&D Outer Planes.

If the real world mythologies are never mentioned by WotC again, there will be zero association in the minds of the vast majority of gamers.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yes, the average person in the west knows some of the Greco-Roman Mythology.

The average person doesnt know who Mystra is, doesnt know that Zeus lives in the D&D Outer Planes.

If the real world mythologies are never mentioned by WotC again, there will be zero association in the minds of the vast majority of gamers.

Is that a good thing? D&D draws a huge amount of it's own inspiration from mythology and folklore. I got interested in mythology, folklore and history, interests which have defined large portions of my life since, because of D&D. Are we supposed to be celebrating the sad truth that many, if not most current fans of D&D don't realize this or have any understanding of where this game they enjoy even comes from?

 

[Scribe]

Is that a good thing? D&D draws a huge amount of it's own inspiration from mythology and folklore. I got interested in mythology, folklore and history, interests which have defined large portions of my life since, because of D&D. Are we supposed to be celebrating the sad truth that many, if not most current fans of D&D don't realize this or have any understanding of where this game they enjoy even comes from?

In pretty much every way, and for every party, yes it would be a good thing.

Eberron and Golarion are far more interesting as settings than 'D&D'. Both have a style, substance, and background which are defined, bespoke, and not public domain.

To you something may be a myth, folklore, or legend. To someone else, its closer to sacred.

LotR got me more interested in mythology, way way more than D&D ever has.

D&D would be improved upon for many, including its own identity, IP, shareholders, if Wizards actually went to the effort to be more than 'its every myth and legend you can think of, regardless of if its accurate or culturally sensitive.'

I mean there is no way they go back to providing a stat line for Zeus, or Shiva, or Christ, you know this.

 

[Micah Sweet]

In pretty much every way, and for every party, yes it would be a good thing.

Eberron and Golarion are far more interesting as settings than 'D&D'. Both have a style, substance, and background which are defined, bespoke, and not public domain.

To you something may be a myth, folklore, or legend. To someone else, its closer to sacred.

LotR got me more interested in mythology, way way more than D&D ever has.

D&D would be improved upon for many, including its own identity, IP, shareholders, if Wizards actually went to the effort to be more than 'its every myth and legend you can think of, regardless of if its accurate or culturally sensitive.'

I mean there is no way they go back to providing a stat line for Zeus, or Shiva, or Christ, you know this.

So better from a business, profit, and optics perspective. Got it. Why the heck should I care about whether or not something is public domain? Do you not think knowing the history and inspirations of something you enjoy is valuable? Are you really focusing on WotC's interests here? Why should that matter to any of us?

 

[Scribe]

So better from a business, profit, and optics perspective. Got it. Why the heck should I care about whether or not something is public domain? Do you not think knowing the history and inspirations of something you enjoy is valuable? Are you really focusing on WotC's interests here? Why should that matter to any of us?

No, I think Eberron and Golarion blow WotC out of the water FOR US, the players as well. The fact it would actually give D&D an identity to hang its hat on would just make it even more a no brainer.

As to the inspirations and history? 99.9% of players dont care, and of those who do, its often weaponized to try and force changes to twist the game further anyway, I dont see a positive in that.

 

[Micah Sweet]

No, I think Eberron and Golarion blow WotC out of the water FOR US, the players as well. The fact it would actually give D&D an identity to hang its hat on would just make it even more a no brainer.

As to the inspirations and history? 99.9% of players dont care, and of those who do, its often weaponized to try and force changes to twist the game further anyway, I dont see a positive in that.

Then I suppose I'm saying I weep for society then, if history has no value to so many.

 

[Scribe]

Then I suppose I'm saying I weep for society then, if history has no value to so many.

Running errands I've seen 4 people ODing, 2-3 being arrested and 2 ambulance being loaded.

Our society is toast and the roots of d&d have nothing to do with it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Running errands I've seen 4 people ODing, 2-3 being arrested and 2 ambulance being loaded.

Our society is toast and the roots of d&d have nothing to do with it.

There are definitely worse symptoms than a lack of respect for the past, true.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Mod Note:

We’ve probably ventured far enough into RW sociopolitical issues for me to point out ENWorld’s guardrails.