Civilization 4 Expansion disc: thoughts?

Vigilance

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Warlords is the first expansion pack to last year's hit turn-based strategy game Civilization IV. As you may have heard, it will introduce a number of new scenarios centered on great warlords from history, such as Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan, as well as new content for the core Civilization IV game. We got even more details from Firaxis at E3 '06, and Warlords sounds better than ever.

First up are the new warlords units. Warlords are an offshoot of the new great-general unit, which joins the existing great-people units, such as great artists and great prophets. Basically, if your units are successful in battle, you may generate a great-general unit. The great general can do things such as construct a military academy or turn into a great instructor, meaning that units built at a city where he's an instructor will get free experience. Or, if you attach the great general to a military unit, he becomes a warlord, which is incredibly powerful. Basically, the warlord will instantly give all the units in his stack two free promotion upgrades, and the warlord gains 50 percent more experience than normal. With a warlord, you'll be able to wage war against your enemies like never before.

We saw two of the new scenarios that are in the expansion. The Alexander the Great scenario requires you to conquer the ancient world, and there's new Greek architecture for cities, as well as a scenario-specific technology tree. After all, technologies such as flight wouldn't be available to the ancient Greeks, but there are useful technologies such as being able to heal while on the move, as well as faster movement over terrain. Even cooler is the new Genghis Khan campaign, which turns Civ on its ear. As Genghis Khan, your job isn't to build cities and a civilization but to sack them. The nomadic Mongols get points for razing cities to the ground. They don't research technologies; rather, they seize them from their enemies. And their mobile-camp unit lets them spawn units every turn. If the camp is on the plains, it'll spawn horse units. If the camp is in a forest, it'll spawn a catapult or trebuchet. It makes sense, in a way. The challenge will be that all the other civilizations absolutely fear the Mongols, so you'll have your job cut out for you to defeat everyone in approximately 150 turns. You must move fast to win.

Finally, there's new content for the original game to talk about. There are some new leaders for some of the existing civilizations, such as Shaka for the Zulus and Winston Churchill for the British. Each of the existing civilizations get new buildings, and there are three new wonders, including the Great Wall of China. Build the Great Wall, and you'll get it constructed along your borders, and it's incredibly useful to keep those rampaging barbarians out. Warlords looks great, and it's due out this summer.

From http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civilizationivwarlords/news.html?sid=6151057
 
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I dunno, it seems kind of weak for an official expansion pack. A lot of that stuff (adding civs and new units and even new leaders - sorta - reskinned ones) has been done by modders.

Have you seen some of the stuff at

http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=158

Okay, a lot of it is amateurish, but it's also a lot more inventive. Scenarios where you colonize the Moon, some fantasy scenarios, etc.
 

I've never liked playing the scenarios in any Civ edition.

I like the wide-open feel of a world to build my empire that is not limited by scenario parameters.
 

DaveMage said:
I've never liked playing the scenarios in any Civ edition.

I like the wide-open feel of a world to build my empire that is not limited by scenario parameters.

Agreed, and most of the things in the expansion aren't scenarios. The military Great Person is an excellent addition and you can always use more civs and such.

To Jeremy: I'm aware of the mods and play them on occasion, but the addition of the new civs, wonders, great people etc is worth it for me. I can't wait.

Chuck
 

Great! I really liked Civ 4, even after skipping Civ 3, which I still think to be inferior to Civ 2. However, even after the latest upgrade Civ 4 is still very buggy. I don't remember playing a single game to the end without crashing. Perhaps they should concentrate in improving their product before releasing new scenarios.
 

Ron said:
Great! I really liked Civ 4, even after skipping Civ 3, which I still think to be inferior to Civ 2. However, even after the latest upgrade Civ 4 is still very buggy. I don't remember playing a single game to the end without crashing. Perhaps they should concentrate in improving their product before releasing new scenarios.

Might be a hardware issue, or maybe I just lucky. It never crashes for me.

Though I did have to buy a new video card to play it at all lol.

Chuck
 

Vigilance said:
Might be a hardware issue, or maybe I just lucky. It never crashes for me.

Though I did have to buy a new video card to play it at all lol.

Chuck

My video card is based in an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro, which is not that old. Still, I'm having all sort of troubles with a few games. Civ is perhaps the greatest offender, because, unlike the others, I really like it. Next time, I'll go with a nVidea card.
 


I've had one or two crashes. Seems to have been mostly fixed by the update, but one crash even after.

I'm guessing it's a memory issue -- happens more on larger maps than smaller maps -- and re-starting from a saved game after a crash allows me to continue playing.

So, it's a sucky answer, but entirely appropriate for Win32 -- save early and often. :(

-- N
 

I have an archaic video card and it's never been an issue for me--except that I always only get 1 of a unit rather than the multiples that you're supposed to. Until I got 1MB of memory, though, I would have issues on the largest maps.

As for me, I don't really play the scenarios much at all (except my beloved "Terra" setting, which is only kind of a scenario).

So, uh, when does MoM2 come out? ;)
 

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