Clarification on what is considered "news."

[Fester]

With all due respect, Phil, Ronin Arts just aren't that newsworthy. You might be a big fish in the PDF pond - but that really is a very small pond. So you left RPGNow. Big deal. I'll get over it. It's not something that many people could care less about one way or another. It's not like you've gone out of business or anything. You've just moved house.

I like Ronin Arts. I've bought your products. I'd like to know what you're releasing now and in the future. But that's it. The rest is your business.

 

[Fifth Element]

I'm confused. Do you imagine my response will be different from earlier today when you asked me this same question?

Well, that was a different forum and a rather different question.

The question is: if retailers do not matter to you (are not newsworthy, as you say), why do you require that publishers link to your RPGNow mirror in their posts? If it's only about the product, why does it matter where they link to?

 

[Fifth Element]

With all due respect, Phil, Ronin Arts just aren't that newsworthy. You might be a big fish in the PDF pond - but that really is a very small pond. So you left RPGNow. Big deal. I'll get over it. It's not something that many people could care less about one way or another. It's not like you've gone out of business or anything. You've just moved house.

I like Ronin Arts. I've bought your products. I'd like to know what you're releasing now and in the future. But that's it. The rest is your business.

Given that Ronin Arts products are no longer availabe at RPGNow, I'd say it's rather important for Phil to accounce to the market from where his products will be available in the future.

It's not that he thinks people care about it one way or the other, but he wants prospective customers to know where to get his stuff. It's that simple.

 

[Morrus]

Well, that was a different forum and a rather different question.

The question is: if retailers do not matter to you (are not newsworthy, as you say), why do you require that publishers link to your RPGNow mirror in their posts? If it's only about the product, why does it matter where they link to?

Still confused. I don't post the threads in the Publisher's forum. Publishers do. I (vicariously, through the newshounds) decide what goes on the news page.

What gets posted in the Publishers forum does not get filtered by any criteria of newsworthiness.

Or, in short: news page = newsworthiness. Publishers forum != news page != newsworthiness.

You seem very excited about this subject. Do you feel you're not getting your money's worth or something?

 

[Fifth Element]

"What I consider interesting".

Sorry, I'm not going to bind myself to any rules or a policy, and I reserve final judgement on what makes the news page and what doesn't.

Still confused. I don't post the threads in the Publisher's forum. Publishers do. I (vicariously, through the newshounds) decide what goes on the news page.

What gets posted in the Publishers forum does not get filtered by any criteria of newsworthiness.

Or, in short: news page = newsworthiness. Publishers forum != news page != newsworthiness.

These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.

The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.

I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.

 

[mythusmage]

These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.

The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.

I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.

Is he dodging the question, or are you just not getting the answer you want?

 

[Fester]

Given that Ronin Arts products are no longer availabe at RPGNow, I'd say it's rather important for Phil to accounce to the market from where his products will be available in the future.

And therein lies the point. As you say it's rather important for Phil, not the rest of us. Those of us who have followed Ronin Arts know where to go and find them. For those that don't know Ronin Arts, then that's for Phil to enlighten them. EN World has no responsibility to Phil, Ronin Arts or any other publisher or organization.

 

[Fester]

These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.

Morrus doesn't owe you an answer. He dictates the terms of the site and we may not always agree, but that doesn't change that fact. Badgering him here and elsewhere for an answer he is so obviously not going to give you is both rude and futile.

 

[Morrus]

These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.

The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.

I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.

I'm not "avoiding the question". I am, now for the third time, refusing to answer the question for reasons explained elsewhere. Drop it now, please.

You're welcome to assume any reason you like, as long as your follow the conditions under which you're permitted to post free ads here at EN World. It's that simple.

Even if I *could* answer you - I don't know you, and would certainly not discuss my private arrangements with you*, let alone in public. I consider this issue closed.


*PS, would you email me a copy of your bank statement, please? Or, better yet, post it here for everyone to see!

 

[Morrus]

And therein lies the point. As you say it's rather important for Phil, not the rest of us. Those of us who have followed Ronin Arts know where to go and find them. For those that don't know Ronin Arts, then that's for Phil to enlighten them. EN World has no responsibility to Phil, Ronin Arts or any other publisher or organization.

Pretty much. Much as I like Phil and other publishers, I do feel I need to occasionally mention that EN World's purpose isn't to generate sales for them. That's a beneficial side-effect at best.