Classless/Point Buy d20?

[Kez Darksun]

Just ran across this thread. I'll have to keep an eye out for ExP20 from Dreamscarred Press. I've been interested in point buy for 3.x since I picked up Buy The Numbers. I'll also be downloading Wayfarers and checking that out when I get the chance. Oh, I can confirm that the original folder name for Buy The Numbers is stc101. I'll also add my voice requesting a breakdown of the SRD classes as well as the classes from DSP as some sort of additional material, whether it be a web enhancement or a seperate supplement.

 

[Angellis_ater]

Good to hear that interest is high for Exp20 (the name is still tentative) and it is in editing and layout right now, although our release of Third Dawn (an all-psionics campaign setting) is currently consuming most of our resources inhouse.

 

[Angellis_ater]

We've decided on a name (Complete Control) and we will be releasing a preview soon! I'll post here for more info.

BTW, NLF has said that he has problems accessing ENWorld, which is why he is somewhat absent from here right now.

 

[Scurvy_Platypus]

I'll certainly be interested in seeing the preview.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

First off, let me say that I have tried to reply to this thread (and others) multiple times in the last week. Each time I can log in, but when I post it tells me that I'm not logged in and have no access to post. What with all the server trouble, I figured to back off until they got a few things fixed. Sorry if my absence was unfortunate.

I'll have to keep an eye out for ExP20 from Dreamscarred Press. I've been interested in point buy for 3.x since I picked up Buy The Numbers. <snipped> I'll also add my voice requesting a breakdown of the SRD classes as well as the classes from DSP as some sort of additional material, whether it be a web enhancement or a seperate supplement.

Glad to hear your interst! I hope that when you get a hand on this work that it is very pleasing to you. I know I have been tweaking the progressions for several months (perhaps years is a better way of saying it) now, and I am please with where they landed.

The breakdown of the classes is easily enough done. It'll be up to the co-owners of DSP as to whether it is a low-cost supplement, a free web-enhancement, or whatever. But if there is enough interest in it, it certainly can be published. The work is already done and siting on my hard drive!

Again, thanks for your interest. And thanks to Scurvy_Platypus for your continued interest as well!

 

[Aus_Snow]

Hey NLF, what's this puppy going to contain? Even in general terms, how uh, complete will Complete Control be? To begin with, I mean.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

Aus Snow,

Great Question! If I can do so without seming too cheesy, can I direct you to this thread: DSP/Mentalis Design Conversation about Complete Control

Specifically, that link should bring you to the top of page three of that discussion. The first post of that page has my breakdown of chapter titles and page counts. The reason I'm directing you there is so that you can get up on the conversation and perhaps find exactly the details you want in that thread. I should note that the first 6 or 7 posts of page two of that thread are also very informative.

If you take a look at that thread and don't find what you are looking for then come back here and let me know. I'd be more than happy to answer specific questions of content. But if youare looking for a general description of the product that thread really says more than I can say here. And it says it better, because the thread was developed over time rather than me typing it all now.

Again, sorry if this seems to bypass the question. Like I said, if you check out the thread (specifically the post I mention) and don't find what you're looking for let me know.

EDIT: I'm not happy with merely referring someone to anyther thread even if I did apologize for doing so. So ... here's a brief attempt at an answer. If I can answer it more directly, help me refine it be asking questions based on specific concerns.

Complete Control will allow a character to be build completely from levels 1-20 (inclusive) using any mechanic in the SRD or from Dreamscarred Press. The work will cover buying HD, BAB, Saves, Skills (no more class skills, though, because there is no more class), Class abilities (broken down into four categories: Constant Abilities, Level-Dependant Variable Abilities, Use-Dependant Abilities, and Progression-Dependant Variable Abilities), SRD-based Magic (IE no Incarnum or Warlock because it isn't OGC), SRD/DSP-based Psionics, DSP Channeling (Tome of Channeling required to use those rules, of course), and probably a few things I left off the list. In general, if it's on that list Complete COntrol will give you the tools to build a character using those quantities without using the concept of character class.

There, I feel a little better about the post. If I can be more specific, please let me know how and in which direction. Again, great question!

 

[Aus_Snow]

Thanks for the reply. That does indeed clear up just about everything. If I think of anything else though, I'll pester ya with it.

 

[The Sigil]

still not finding it. Any other sugestions?

Or just PM me with some contact info and I'll see about getting you another copy next time I log in to check my messages.

 

[Drowbane]

Buy the Numbers (pdf?) is pointbuy for 3e... but we broke it so badly that the DM opted to run us as Gestalt to simplify (and weaken) things.

Mutants & Masterminds can run any genre and is d20ish.