Cleric archer

[NightCrawler]

Divine Metamagic: Persistent

Can a cleric make Divine favor or divene power available for 24 hours with that feat?

 

[Nifft]

Divine Metamagic: Persistent

Can a cleric make Divine favor or divene grace available for 24 hours with that feat?

Yes. (Note though: that particular feat is subject to much debate.)

Cheers, -- N

 

[NightCrawler]

Yes. (Note though: that particular feat is subject to much debate.)

Cheers, -- N

Debate? What debate?
And it seems that this feat has nothing as a preq (only to be able to rebuke or turn undead).
It looks broken. Imagine a cleric with a 24hour Divine Favor/Power...

 

[Folly]

The catch is that while you can persistent some nice spells, due to the massive turning attempts needed to power it, you cant have many persistent feats up. Especially since you need at least 2 feats for archery. (assuming elf domain for PB)

 

[werk]

Though not required, the Elf domain and being an elf are strongly suggested. This will allow you to take Cloistered Cleric instead of Cleric, which is good because what you lose (hit points, armor proficiency) you aren't about to use much as an archer anyway. (Archers rely on not being hit rather than heavy hit points, and armor interferes with their high dexterity anyhow.)

Yes, don't forget to use your domains to help out. If not an elf, go war domain for the free weapon prof and focus, etc...

(Sorry if that was assumed.)

 

[Nifft]

Debate? What debate?

See below.

And it seems that this feat has nothing as a preq (only to be able to rebuke or turn undead).

Errata changed that, however...

It looks broken.

That's the heart of the debate. I'm of the opinion that DMM (persist) or DMM (quicken) are indeed broken.

Cheers, -- N

 

[NightCrawler]

Errata changed that, however...
Cheers, -- N

So what are the requirements now after the errata?

 

[Nifft]

So what are the requirements now after the errata?

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a

Cheers, -- N

 

[NightCrawler]

Ok i got it
So i keep divine power or divine favour up (i think power is better) with DMMersistent
and i keep also magick vestment on my armor or shield (does the bonus armor from magick vestment stack with other AC bonuses granted by a magick armor or shield?)

Btw are there any other buff that worth making when fighting?

Also it seems that with DMMersistent you will be able to make only one buff available for 24 hours due to great turn undead price. Is there any item that grant bonus turn undead attempts per day or something like that?

 

[Herobizkit]

You mean, like, Extra Turning? From the SRD:

Extra Turning [General]
Prerequisite: Ability to turn or rebuke creatures.
Benefit:

Each time you take this feat, you can use your ability to turn or rebuke creatures four more times per day than normal.

If you have the ability to turn or rebuke more than one kind of creature each of your turning or rebuking abilities gains four additional uses per day.

Sarcasm cheerily added for effect.