Cleric Combo

[Trellian]

One of the players in my group decided to try to make the ultimate cleric combo.

He's a Cleric5/Church Inquisitor 3/Contemplative 1/Divine Oracle2 of Tyr.

His wisdom score is 17, and he crafted himself a Periapt of Wisdom+7, raising the wisdom score to 24. As a prestige domain for the contemplative, he choose madness, giving him a +5 bonus to wisdom when determining bonus spells and DC to spells. He also chose the Spell Prodigy feat, giving him another +2 wisdom when determining bonus spells and DC. This gives him a DC bonus of +10. Even 1st level spells have a save DC of 21!

This is a little munchkin, I know, but we're playing City of the Spider Queen, and hearing it was quite difficult, I urged my players to be as munchkin as possible.

Any comments to this character?

 

[kreynolds]

...he crafted himself a Periapt of Wisdom+7...

You let him craft an artifact!?! No _wonder_ you're having trouble!

 

[Magic Rub]

What Kreynolds is trying to say is this.

The max nonepic (enhancment) bonus any ability adjusting item can have is a +6 (for epic it's +12 but you need to be 23rd level for that... I think).

 

[Magic Rub]

Also Tyr's Domains are;

Good
Knowledge
Law
Retribution
War



...I may be wrong, but I don't think his character can pick Madness as a domain, as Tyr cannot grant it.

 

[kreynolds]

What Kreynolds is trying to say is this.

The max nonepic (enhancment) bonus any ability adjusting item can have is a +6 (for epic it's +12 but you need to be 23rd level for that... I think).

Actually, no. What I'm trying to say is this..

You let him craft an artifact!?! No _wonder_ you're having trouble!

 

[glass]

His wisdom score is 17, and he crafted himself a Periapt of Wisdom+7, raising the wisdom score to 24.

Also, there is no such thing as a +7 periapt of wisdom. Ability score boosters only come in even numbers.

glass.

 

[Darklone]

Btw, you can't craft any +7 item boost thingies...

 

[Nail]

Any comments to this character?

Yup.

It's not possible, by the rules.

Have fun!

 

[Magic Rub]

The way this character is built at max for this level his wisdom will be a 27

Level *1* 17 Base + 2 Spellcasting Prodigy = 19
Level *2* -
Level *3* -
Level *4* 19 + 1 level bonus = 20
Level *5* -
Level *6* -
Level *7* -
Level *8* 20 + 1 level bonus = 21
Level *9* 21 + 6 Periapt of Wisdom = 27
Level *10* -
Level *11* -

Which is only a +8 to his saves.

Remember that the baddies can use Dispel Magic (or antimagic field) to supress his Periapt of Wisdom, that will screw up his bonus spells & his save DC's... as well as all his Wisdom based skills.

If it's not too late he could/should do a rebuild picking a god that has the Madness domain. Effectivly boosting his wisdom to a 32 & his save DC bonus to a +11.

The Gods for the madness domain are;
Boccob **FR conversion = Azuth, Mystra, Savaras, Velsharoon
Erythnul **FR conversion = Cyric, Gargos, Malar
Vecna **FR conversion = Shar, Velsaroon

Otherwise his character is, as nail has said, just not possible.

 

[Trellian]

Oh boy am I glad that I posted him... I wasn't quite aware of the fact that +7 was an artifact. Does it say so in the DMG? Epic-level handbook?

I was in doubt about the Tyr-Boccob conversion as well, I couldn't find any reference. FRCS? I was maybe a bit lenient on that part, since Boccob and Tyr shared the domain of Knowledge.

Where does it say that ability enhancers cannot come in odd numbers? If you have a score of 13 (+1), and wants a +2, why waste money on a +4 item (giving you 17), when you can buy a much cheaper +3 item (3*3*1000 = 9000 instead of 4*4*1000 = 16000). Unless it says somewhere that you cannot create +1 or +3 items, I don't see why it cannot be possible.

But he will of course have to be without the +7 item.. and he will have to change his god as well. The reason he chose Tyr was because he needed a Lawful Good church to be a Church Inquisitor.

Maybe I'll just switch to playing low-level campaigns again.. so much easier...

Thanks !