Cloak Fighter stats. (Help)
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I would definately get the second book before I designed a class based on the cloak fighter. It covers Kon's Training and such. More Monk like than anything they are trained to use the cloak and do many other ninja/martial artist monk things.
The cloak fighter fights with a cloak that would be considered Alchemical in 3rd edition it is resistant to most forms of energy and extremely indestructible (within reason) It is weighted at both ends and the edges have dragon bone blades (Dragons being hunted like whales in these books for the near magical property of skin, bones and hide all treated with alchemy) So when spun the blades can slash nastily. They are also trained to use the weights as blugeons and strike vulnerable body points (like a monk). they were also trained to be unnaturally observant/ aware. they were honorable mercenaries and highly in demand body guards using their cloak to shield there patron as well as them selves.
I could do A real cool prestige class at least ten levels with it. Would be sort of neat. actually more defensive than offensive.
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The cloak fighter fights with a cloak that would be considered Alchemical in 3rd edition it is resistant to most forms of energy and extremely indestructible (within reason) It is weighted at both ends and the edges have dragon bone blades (Dragons being hunted like whales in these books for the near magical property of skin, bones and hide all treated with alchemy) So when spun the blades can slash nastily. They are also trained to use the weights as blugeons and strike vulnerable body points (like a monk). they were also trained to be unnaturally observant/ aware. they were honorable mercenaries and highly in demand body guards using their cloak to shield there patron as well as them selves.
I could do A real cool prestige class at least ten levels with it. Would be sort of neat. actually more defensive than offensive.
later
Hatchling Dragon
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Thank You!
I had given up trying to find a sequel to The Shattered World novel, one of my favorite books (for it's unique setting/flavor). Now the important question. Is it any good? I've done a quick search on the net and it seems to sell for a very low price, not a good indicator of it's merits, at least at first glance.
This is one of the reasons I have to start going back to Uncle Edger's Sci-Fi and Fantasy book store. Not only do they have a fantastic selection of new 'n used but it seems like at least one of the people that work there has read any book you can name (Sci-Fi/Fantasy of course).
Hatchling Dragon
I had given up trying to find a sequel to The Shattered World novel, one of my favorite books (for it's unique setting/flavor). Now the important question. Is it any good? I've done a quick search on the net and it seems to sell for a very low price, not a good indicator of it's merits, at least at first glance.
This is one of the reasons I have to start going back to Uncle Edger's Sci-Fi and Fantasy book store. Not only do they have a fantastic selection of new 'n used but it seems like at least one of the people that work there has read any book you can name (Sci-Fi/Fantasy of course).
Hatchling Dragon
Deadguy
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Shattered World
Well... I tend to think that the price is low simply because it isn't a well-known novel.
As for what it is like as a story... I think it's reasonable but far fraom brilliant. In a way, it feels like the author, having created a unique setting in which to tell his first story, decided to explore a little of what the setting is like. As such, he does have some nice imagery: the eternal day of the abyss of the sky, and of fragments bursting out of huge cloudbanks, for example.
The story was, in my own opinion, not as good as the first, but that was more because he was following too many characters at once (takes a lot of skill to do that). The ending is also... well a little bleak.
However, as someone who runs a Shattered World campaign, it was invaluable in helping me guage the author's ideas about how the system would work. I discraded some elements, but that was expressly to create a specific feel for the 'cosmology' of the game. One of the players in my own game enjoyed it so much that he runs games in the setting for another group of players. It's a lot of fun to occasionally remind people that they are on fragments of a planet... pointing out the nearness of the horizon (because the world really does stop at the edge!), or having tunnels that abruptly open into the air! And the concept of the setting, with the destroyed civilisations from before the Cataclysm brought about by the Necromancer, makes a good excuse for dungeon crawls and ancient magics.
As you can tell, I am something of a fan...
Hatchling Dragon said:
Well... I tend to think that the price is low simply because it isn't a well-known novel.
As for what it is like as a story... I think it's reasonable but far fraom brilliant. In a way, it feels like the author, having created a unique setting in which to tell his first story, decided to explore a little of what the setting is like. As such, he does have some nice imagery: the eternal day of the abyss of the sky, and of fragments bursting out of huge cloudbanks, for example.
The story was, in my own opinion, not as good as the first, but that was more because he was following too many characters at once (takes a lot of skill to do that). The ending is also... well a little bleak.
However, as someone who runs a Shattered World campaign, it was invaluable in helping me guage the author's ideas about how the system would work. I discraded some elements, but that was expressly to create a specific feel for the 'cosmology' of the game. One of the players in my own game enjoyed it so much that he runs games in the setting for another group of players. It's a lot of fun to occasionally remind people that they are on fragments of a planet... pointing out the nearness of the horizon (because the world really does stop at the edge!), or having tunnels that abruptly open into the air! And the concept of the setting, with the destroyed civilisations from before the Cataclysm brought about by the Necromancer, makes a good excuse for dungeon crawls and ancient magics.
As you can tell, I am something of a fan...
I second most of what Deadguy says.
But I really like his writing style he is one of the writers I wished had kept writing. He had the potential to be a much better writer and his begining stuff was pretty good, not brilliant but the potential for brilliance.
I have considered running a game set in this world but never got my act together. He presented several systems of magic and the demons/devils being used as he wrote them would add a nice dark edge to the game without making it evil, neccessarily.
I have read these books many times at least 5-6 each, that is how much I enjoy them.
They are worth the read and he presents a fasicinating world with I think a lot of potential. The wizards are protaryed in an interesting way. Enough magic to be almost D&D like but not so much wizards rule the world. I love that His wizards are fitness orientated due to the stress of weilding magic and such. A different veiw of the wizardly scholar.
Good Books
But I really like his writing style he is one of the writers I wished had kept writing. He had the potential to be a much better writer and his begining stuff was pretty good, not brilliant but the potential for brilliance.
I have considered running a game set in this world but never got my act together. He presented several systems of magic and the demons/devils being used as he wrote them would add a nice dark edge to the game without making it evil, neccessarily.
I have read these books many times at least 5-6 each, that is how much I enjoy them.
They are worth the read and he presents a fasicinating world with I think a lot of potential. The wizards are protaryed in an interesting way. Enough magic to be almost D&D like but not so much wizards rule the world. I love that His wizards are fitness orientated due to the stress of weilding magic and such. A different veiw of the wizardly scholar.
Good Books
Hatchling Dragon
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Re: Shattered World
Er... the Necromancer saved the world, or at least part(s) of it, if I'm not mistaken it was the other Wizards that destroyed the World in either a failed spell or attempt to destroy the Necromancer (probably out of fear of his power.)
Well I'll have to find/buy this thing come Friday (ie: Payday), if for no other reason than to have both books. And I totaly agree that it was a shame that the author didn't keep the world 'alive'. Whatever happened to him? I wonder if he'd be interested in a d20 Shattered World supliment? It'd be the perfect setting for modules and expansion/region packs, they'd just detail various new shards (or two if the're small), or dungeons/ruins of course. Ahh.. to dream...
Heh, another thing to put on my "To Do" list on my Palm m105, the toy for those of us with faulty memories.
Hatchling Dragon
Deadguy said:<snip>the Cataclysm brought about by the Necromancer<snip>
As you can tell, I am something of a fan...
Er... the Necromancer saved the world, or at least part(s) of it, if I'm not mistaken it was the other Wizards that destroyed the World in either a failed spell or attempt to destroy the Necromancer (probably out of fear of his power.)
Well I'll have to find/buy this thing come Friday (ie: Payday), if for no other reason than to have both books. And I totaly agree that it was a shame that the author didn't keep the world 'alive'. Whatever happened to him? I wonder if he'd be interested in a d20 Shattered World supliment? It'd be the perfect setting for modules and expansion/region packs, they'd just detail various new shards (or two if the're small), or dungeons/ruins of course. Ahh.. to dream...
Heh, another thing to put on my "To Do" list on my Palm m105, the toy for those of us with faulty memories.
Hatchling Dragon
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Deadguy
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rogue planetShattered World
Well, as a matter of fact the world was destroyed by a natural disaster - ripped apart in a collision with a rogue planet. Yes the Necromancer actually helped save the day. However I was avoiding mentioning this as it's a kinda big plot-spoiler for those who haven't read the book!
Well, I already started on a conversion, though it isn't completely true to the setting. For example, I followed what I thought was his imagery and included absolutely no deities in the setting (Clerics are replaced by Theurges, who are essentially empowered philosophers). However, in the second novel he starts mentioning temples. And my cosmology is a little different from his own (e.g. the Shattered World was the centre of its own system, with its Sun orbiting it), in order to fit more easily with some of the aspects of D&D.
But you are right, it would be easy to do supplements for this world. Fragments can be detailed independently, since they are independent, and there is a wealth of Pre-Cataclysm remains to provide great excuses for adventures. Combine that with the terrible power of the dread Cacodaemons and their Chthonian Lords, and you have an exciting realm to adventure.
Well, at least my players think so...
Hatchling Dragon said:
Well, as a matter of fact the world was destroyed by a natural disaster - ripped apart in a collision with a rogue planet. Yes the Necromancer actually helped save the day. However I was avoiding mentioning this as it's a kinda big plot-spoiler for those who haven't read the book!
Well I'll have to find/buy this thing come Friday (ie: Payday), if for no other reason than to have both books. And I totaly agree that it was a shame that the author didn't keep the world 'alive'. Whatever happened to him? I wonder if he'd be interested in a d20 Shattered World supliment? It'd be the perfect setting for modules and expansion/region packs, they'd just detail various new shards (or two if the're small), or dungeons/ruins of course. Ahh.. to dream...
Hatchling Dragon
Well, I already started on a conversion, though it isn't completely true to the setting. For example, I followed what I thought was his imagery and included absolutely no deities in the setting (Clerics are replaced by Theurges, who are essentially empowered philosophers). However, in the second novel he starts mentioning temples. And my cosmology is a little different from his own (e.g. the Shattered World was the centre of its own system, with its Sun orbiting it), in order to fit more easily with some of the aspects of D&D.
But you are right, it would be easy to do supplements for this world. Fragments can be detailed independently, since they are independent, and there is a wealth of Pre-Cataclysm remains to provide great excuses for adventures. Combine that with the terrible power of the dread Cacodaemons and their Chthonian Lords, and you have an exciting realm to adventure.
Well, at least my players think so...
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