Cloak of Mage Armor

billd91 said:
But that is exactly what we do. Think of non-magical bracers (or cloak) as having an armor bonus of +0 (which it effectively does).

I am considering the total Armor Bonus given. Ignoring the Armor Bonus that is Cheap skews the entire process!
 

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VanRichten said:
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Do you still wish to argue the price Slaved? I mean look at the pros and cons here.

Yes I do. I have already covered all of these points in my previous posts except for Weight.

Strength 8 is the Minimum Starting Strength for a Medium Size Character from the Players Handbook if Point Buy is used. Light Load for Strength 8 is 26 Pounds. A Mithral Chain Shirt Weighs 12.5 Pounds which allows for Gear.
 

But before leaving core, there is no way to wear armor as a caster without taking some amount of penalty. Not many casters are willing to put up with a 5% spell failure chance. Just because they can wear it doesn't mean they are going to. And monks are not allowed period, without giving up almost all of their class features.

Many consider the enchant that reduces spell failure to be too good, so bringing a questionable enchant into the picture to prove you point, puts your point on questionable ground.

I was trying to make my point within the core books. And while the MIC does say that alot of the items in the DMG are too expensive, it doesn't change the cost of Bracers of Armor. To that point, it doesn't overlook bracers of armor because they werent included in the MIC, but specificly left them the same while reprinting it.
 

Only Arcane Casters are hindered by Arcane Spell Failure and in the Core Bards are Immune to it while Wearing Light Armor.

Sorcerers and Wizards both have Mage Armor on their Spell Lists and so are better off using a Spell than they are paying 16000 Gold for the Same Effect.

That leaves only the Monk. Is a shift in the Price going to upset the Balance of the Monk?
 

Slaved said:
That leaves only the Monk. Is a shift in the Price going to upset the Balance of the Monk?

Since it's only the Monk, is leaving the price the way the rules say it is going to upset the balance of the Monk?

-Hyp.
 

Slaved said:
I am considering the total Armor Bonus given. Ignoring the Armor Bonus that is Cheap skews the entire process!
Would you argue that an Amulet of Natural Armor +1 costs too much, because Kobolds gain a +1 Natural Armor bonus for free?

Cheers, -- N
 

Hypersmurf said:
Since it's only the Monk, is leaving the price the way the rules say it is going to upset the balance of the Monk?

-Hyp.

I believe that one of the Complaints about the Monk is that its Armor Class is too Expensive to Improve.

Changing the Monk would work. Changing the Bracers of Armor so that it helps the Monk and helps Characters who want more Options than just the Armors listed is Better. I say it is Better because it Helps More with a Single Stroke and if the Price is set more reasonably Balance is not Hurt.
 

Nifft said:
Would you argue that an Amulet of Natural Armor +1 costs too much, because Kobolds gain a +1 Natural Armor bonus for free?

Cheers, -- N

I would say that an Amulet of Natural Armor Costs too much because I think that a Ring of Deflection +1 is Priced close enough to Correct to not worry about. :D :D :D
 

Slaved said:
I believe that one of the Complaints about the Monk is that its Armor Class is too Expensive to Improve.

That doesn't necessarily mean the prices are incorrect, though; it means that the monk has a weakness, and people should either find alternative means to increase AC, or deal with it, or stop playing monks.

And I'm Trying to figure Out if there's A Pattern to when you Choose to capitalise a Word...?

-Hyp.
 

Hypersmurf said:
That doesn't necessarily mean the prices are incorrect, though; it means that the monk has a weakness, and people should either find alternative means to increase AC, or deal with it, or stop playing monks.

And I'm Trying to figure Out if there's A Pattern to when you Choose to capitalise a Word...?

-Hyp.

I have said already that the Monk part of my Argument was to round it out rather than the Main Thrust.

Alternative means to Increase Armor Class abound. The Rules are supposed to support Balanced Options. Bracers of Armor fall outside of that Balance based on their Price and the Price of other Items.

There is a Pattern and a Reason.
 

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