Clubhouse: The Shearing Pen

I'm concerned about a lowered VZ ceiling because of the wall spells. For instance, the NG vs. NE arena was very boxed in by walls of stone, but since the roof was 40ft up at least it was possible to fly over it. With a 20ft ceiling it could have been completely boxed, and potentially sub-compartmentalized so that gargantuan creatures wouldn't be able to teleport in, even squeezed.
 

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Good catch on that Greybar. What if the VZ shifted as well - the floor 20' west, the roof 20' east - then you'd have to make a ceiling too too, but you'd still have a landing pad.
 

definitely change the grapple rules, and nix ethereal camping.
I like move action entering, as an option to teleporting
I am indifferent to the VZ changes - I do like having a roof, but the height doesn't matter.


as for pre-buffing: I think rnd/lvl buffs should be off limits. Perhaps a 2 minute wait after casting buffs. Otherwise I think the ToC buffing rules seem to be working.

The dirt is doing little good, the 3 rnd limit makes burrowing impractical.
 

I agree that burrowing is impractical. Even the sand dragon will not be able to use it because it will be an almost guaranteed loss. The problem is that an opponent would only need to keep him out one round. Which reminds me of another problem. I don't like the idea of forcing someone out of the VZ. If an opponent tries to enter the VZ, but is prevented, then that should 'count' as entering the VZ (for that round). In other words, it may not negate the loss condition, but it would extend it one more round as long as the combatant makes every effort to enter. This extension would continue. This also eliminates the "block in the VZ with walls of force" bologna and, more importantly, the cheap victory.

As we've seen, swimmers have had reasonable success swimming under the VZ to enter from both sides. Burrowers do not enjoy the same luxury, and I'm not just saying this because of sand dragons. I think a horizontal VZ strip would not work well because it then eliminates swimmers and burrowers. To accommodate Gansk's issue of not even being able to charge, perhaps extend the water/sand strips by 10ft (to 30ft wide) and then have the VZ be 80ft long, 20ft wide in the center, extending 10ft over the water/sand. If there's a slow creature that stands in the middle of an 80ft wide strip and still can't charge to either end (to be within Reach), then oh well.
 

Infiniti2000 said:
To accommodate Gansk's issue of not even being able to charge, perhaps extend the water/sand strips by 10ft (to 30ft wide) and then have the VZ be 80ft long, 20ft wide in the center, extending 10ft over the water/sand. If there's a slow creature that stands in the middle of an 80ft wide strip and still can't charge to either end (to be within Reach), then oh well.

Should the VZ strip have a 20 foot high roof along its length?
 


Non-BoAA news:
Our baby was born Saturday and we're back home now. Lula Clare was 9 lbs 14.5 oz, and 21.5" long. I'm exceedingly in awe of my wife since she did that without any drugs. :)

My son is being very good as a big brother, though he really doesn't like it when she cries (clamps his hands over his ears).

And now to try to get some sleep, since she just finished nursing...
 




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