CMP: On its way out?
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Henry
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kingpaul said:
For one example, it used to be when you hit "news" on pcgen.sourceforge.net, and hit "read more" for the latest alpha/finished/whatever release, it would spell out what new features were in the version, what bugs were fixed since previous version, what new data sets were added, etc. Now, it says, "PCGen and their official sponsor Silven Publishing are pleased to announce the release of X". Period. I used to use those to gauge whether this particular release was worth my time to download and test-drive, buggy or not.
My problem with dates/releases seems to have cleared up since the last couple of releases (dot 7 and dot 8). Prior, I recall something a little funky going on with the numbering, and whereas the news page was saying "dot 5 is released! dot 6 is released!" the latest unstable release was dot 1? dot 2? Can't recall now. Lately it seems to have been straightened out, but having an easier place to look at the summary of bug fixes and new features would be a handy thing to have or know where to get them.
TheYeti1775
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iwarrior-poet said:
Still down now an hour later.
iwarrior-poet
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Actually, they were down yesterday too (at least when I checked they were...)
TheYeti1775
Adventurer
Think its a shame for them. As P.O. as I got at the "It's Coming Soon" line, they did provide 'official' support on the comptur side.
Right now, I'm one of many kinda just sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what WOTC/Hasbro does now. While I love buying 'toys' as much as the next gamer, CFO (i.e. wife) dictates how much gets spent on said 'toys'.
There are things I like about many of the 'competing' products out there.
PCGen enjoys a huge following, where as RPG Xplorer has a easy to use interface.
And KingPaul you can take note on this one (currently have a copy of 5.8);
Any developer reading this one can as well:
Make your product stand alone, not dependent on other softwares (i.e. Java). I want to be able to put it on my mini-drive (4GB) and take it with me to my friend's; to my work (where they don't allow Java Apps to run); to my home. I don't want the need of a driver outside of your system or a requirement to be online. I can deal with 'slowness' for a package that can do that. I just want to be able to install it and run with it. Really I think that is the main thing that has kept me from 'fully embracing' PCGen, please correct me if I'm wrong on it.
Thanks for listening,
Yeti
Right now, I'm one of many kinda just sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what WOTC/Hasbro does now. While I love buying 'toys' as much as the next gamer, CFO (i.e. wife) dictates how much gets spent on said 'toys'.
There are things I like about many of the 'competing' products out there.
PCGen enjoys a huge following, where as RPG Xplorer has a easy to use interface.
And KingPaul you can take note on this one (currently have a copy of 5.8);
Any developer reading this one can as well:
Make your product stand alone, not dependent on other softwares (i.e. Java). I want to be able to put it on my mini-drive (4GB) and take it with me to my friend's; to my work (where they don't allow Java Apps to run); to my home. I don't want the need of a driver outside of your system or a requirement to be online. I can deal with 'slowness' for a package that can do that. I just want to be able to install it and run with it. Really I think that is the main thing that has kept me from 'fully embracing' PCGen, please correct me if I'm wrong on it.
Thanks for listening,
Yeti
Mercule
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iwarrior-poet said:
In fairness, I believe their datacenter is in Michigan or Wisconsin. The upper midwest (at least Iowa and Minnesota -- I haven't paid attension outside that area) has been hit pretty hard by ice storms in the last couple of days and many places are without power.
Of course, a good datacenter should have back-up power, but I believe CMP has already acknowledged that they don't have a great datacenter.
Not that I don't think CMP is on its way out. I just think it's fair to give the occasional benefit of the doubt.
schporto
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TheYeti1775 said:
First off just about all software is dependent on other software. About the only exception I know of is the bios. Your operating system depends on the bios. Any program you run after that is dependent on the OS. Web apps are dependent on web browsers. Etc etc.
I like it being dependent on Java. Java makes it able to ignore the OS. This means it will run the same on my linux desktop, as the windows laptop, as the IMac. Now before you say - but everyone runs windows! No. No they don't. Two of my players run Linux, and one uses a Mac. And I'd rather it support the Mac and Linux users then then few places out there that do not allow Java apps.
Chances are - if they don't allow java apps, they'd be really upset if you ran PCGen anyways.
-cpd
TheYeti1775
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Your missing the pointschporto said:
The point is I want a stand alone product. I don't want to have to deal with worrying about if my friend has the correct driver or not. I want to install it to a portable drive, weather it's Linux/Mac/Windows doesn't matter. It should be able to run from it's install to that drive alone. Installing it to multiple machines shouldn't be needed at all. Like I said its a want that most likely won't be filled, but I can at least tell them about it. It can be thrown back there on that 12th back burner of possible projects ten years down the road. Let's see they are at 5.10 now, so I'll check back about 10.5 for it.
But seriously I want them to keep up the work they have been doing and succeed doing so, as it benefits us all.
And KingPaul if 5.10 can run fully stand alone on a minidrive only, tell me I'll download it as soon as I get home. As I will use it.
Keep up the good work all of ya.
Yeti
I sit and monitor a system all day. As long as the system is up and running they could care less what I do around here. I like skating.
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