CMP: On its way out?

The_Gneech said:
Wow ... on a whim I went to check if the "DMG II stat block fix" for E-Tools ever appeared, and I find the web equivalent of an elephant graveyard.

Erf. :( I'm very sad to see this. E-Tools, for all its faults, is the one thing that makes D&D playable for me.

Thanks for all your hard work, guys. I salute you! And I'm going to keep using E-Tools as long as it keeps working.

-The Gneech :cool:

Gneech, Eddy just checked in a new output sheet in the latest alpha of PCGen for that format. :)
 

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The_Gneech said:
Wow ... on a whim I went to check if the "DMG II stat block fix" for E-Tools ever appeared, and I find the web equivalent of an elephant graveyard.
Have you tried checking Ray's D&D Page for the Dungeon Magazine stat-blocks available there (the original debut of the format just before DMG II came out)?
 


lonejedi said:
Have you tried checking Ray's D&D Page for the Dungeon Magazine stat-blocks available there (the original debut of the format just before DMG II came out)?

I have that one, actually, thanks. :) It includes some house rules, which are easy enough to ignore ... I was mainly going back to get the "official" one as a matter of form.

I am going to keep an eye on CMP, tho ... I was always pleased with their products overall and hope they can pull out of this crisis.

-The Gneech :cool:
 

Nylanfs said:
Gneech, Eddy just checked in a new output sheet in the latest alpha of PCGen for that format. :)

I'm not ready to tackle PCGen yet ... I've got too much invested in E-Tools. Thanks for the heads-up, tho!

-The Gneech :cool:
 


Um... I started this thread in an effort to point out some serious problems with CMP. While this thread has been running, CMP has not done much that would provide any refutation of these problems. I am not complaining---just pointing out and updating some facts that other folks might want to try and gloss over.
 

Gnal said:
Well, they are back up. Time for you to put away your joy-joy WP and go complain about something else.
Back up? I wouldn't call it that - not yet anyway.

I've not chimed in before but I've used PCGen (I've even tried, sometimes successfully, to code my own bits and pieces). I've bought datasets from CMP (the 3.5 and Complete series packages). I've tried to support them, but when they refused to answer a simple query about their output sheet calculating WILL incorrectly (it ignores the WIS stat modifier!) I gave up. Sure, it's just an output sheet, but it's actually, in terms of layout, the one I prefer. I don't know enough about how they work to try and correct the problem and my post on their forum (before it went down) was unanswered (aside from responses from other customers looking for a fix).

CMP? Not worth it. PCGen? I like it and, if I ever get the time code all the books I want to use, will be getting used again.
 

dpmcalister said:
when they refused to answer a simple query about their output sheet calculating WILL incorrectly (it ignores the WIS stat modifier!) I gave up. Sure, it's just an output sheet, but it's actually, in terms of layout, the one I prefer. I don't know enough about how they work to try and correct the problem and my post on their forum (before it went down) was unanswered (aside from responses from other customers looking for a fix).

I don't recall a thread about that at all... but it's very possible that it didn't get answered immediately with everything that went down recently.

In any case, post your issue again over at CMP now that the forums are back up and you'll probably get an answer (most likely from me :p).

Out of curiosity, which sheet?
 
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BarakO said:
I don't recall a thread about that at all... but it's very possible that it didn't get answered immediately with everything that went down recently.
I posted the thread back in January!

BarakO said:
In any case, post your issue again over at CMP now that the forums are back up and you'll probably get an answer (most likely from me :p).

Out of curiosity, which sheet?
It's the output sheet that CMP distribute with their datasets. I haven't got it installed at the moment so can't give you the full name.
 

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