College Football 2007-2008

Dimwhit said:
OK Ranger REG. It's your Warriors against my Broncos for the WAC! So what do you think...is Hawaii finally going to beat Boise? I think Boise has been playing more consistently lately. Hawaii's a bit lucky to have beaten Nevada (of course, Boise was lucky to beat them, too). But I don't know...it's in Hawaii. Should be a great game, regardless.
I hope so.

Colt didn't play much in Nevada. Probably the coach's decision to keep him off his feet for the upcoming Boise State home game, following the mild concussion he got in the last home game against Fresno State. But that was a big gamble. Second-string QB Tyler Graunke didn't have a great game as the last time he started this season when Colt sprained his ankle. Kicker Dan Kelly is like having Jason Elam back in the roster. He came through in the clutch.

Nevertheless, next Friday's home game will determine #1 and #2 in the WAC.
 

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Dimwhit said:
And on another topic: the college football talk has SUCKED this year on ENWorld!!! :(

I think the problem was that they moved the pick-em over to CirvcsMaximus last year (and if they ran one again this year, nobody told me).

Anyway, here's the rundown I posted on another (Big East-centric) board...

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BCS conference/BCS title contender rundown:

ACC:
No BCS title contenders; title game is BC vs. VT/VA winner
pojected champion: Virginia

B12:
BCS title contenders:
Kansas (11-0) - Only team that controls their own destiny in jumping ahead of LSU, as they still have a chance -- albeit by winning two tough games -- to be only BCS unbeaten
Expected final record: 11-1 (loses to MO)

MO (9-1) - Loss by Oregon actually puts them in a very strong position if they win the B12, though I wouldn't rank them above WVU, ASU, or Ohio State (with the same record) if I had a vote.
Expected final record: 11-2 (loses to Oklahoma in Big 12 title game rematch, or Texas if Big 12 title game is not a rematch)

Title game is Oklahoma or Texas (if Texas beats Texas A&M and Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma State) vs. KS/MO winner
Projected champion: Oklahoma

B10:
BCS title contender:
Ohio State (11-1) - Losses by Oregon and Oklahoma put them right back in BCS title race, if LSU loses and/or Oklahoma wins B12 despite today's loss.

Champion: Ohio State

BE:
BCS title contender:
West Virginia (9-1) - Despite close shave with Cinci, winning out gives them a very real shot at BCS title, under the same circumstances as Ohio State.
Expected final record: 11-1

Projected Champion: West Virginia (should beat UConn next week)

P10:
BCS title contender:
Arizona State (9-1) - Tough game with Southern Cal on Thanksgiving which probably is for the Pac 10's title; rivalry game with AZ not a sure thing, but Sun Devils should win that one. Only team outside of LSU and the Big 12 teams with a chance for a marquee win (vs. Southern Cal) before the bowls; my expectation is that if they win out and LSU loses or the B12 South team wins the B12, they'll get in the BCS title game, but I don't think they'll do it.
Expected final record: 10-2 (loses to Southern Cal)

Projected champion: Southern Cal due to tiebreaker edge; Oregon loses at least one of UCLA or Oregon State w/o Dixon

SEC:
BCS title contender:
LSU (10-1) - No serious threats before SEC title (LSU has a spot locked up) game on their schedule, but I can't help feeling this team's due to run out of luck soon. Still, will be in BCS top 2 until/unless they do before then.
Expected final record: 11-2 (loses SEC title game)

Projected champion: Georgia (Tenn loses to KY, so Georgia wins SEC East

Current BCS Bowl Projections

BCS Title: West Virginia (BE) vs. Ohio State (B10)
Rose: Southern Cal (at-large) vs. LSU (at-large)
Orange: Virginia (ACC) vs. Arizona State (at-large)
Fiesta: Oklahoma (B12) vs. Boise State (autobid for being in BCS top 12 or above lowest-ranked BCS conference champ)
Sugar: Georgia (SEC) vs. Kansas (autobid as BCS#3/4)

Assumptions
- LSU will lose the SEC title game, because they're not playing well enough to beat a decent team right now
- Hawaii will lose, and so drop out of top 14
- With projected further losses, Boise probably does make into into top 12 at 11-1
- Without Dixon, Oregon splits final two games
- Southern Cal beats Arizona State
- Oklahoma's QB will be okay next week and for B12 title game
- 11-1 Kansas probably is in BCS top 4
 

Gee, how East-centric of you (even if you're just a messenger). :\

Then again, I'm not surprised at all. You mainland folks take us islanders lightly.
 

Hey, I'm hoping the Warriors win out and make a BCS game!! No one takes Texas Tech seriously either and they upset the Sooners. In this crazy year I think it would be great to see it happen.

I want to see LSU lose and then have Kansas play WV in the National Championship game. I think that would be the most entertaining match ups of teams. I'm happy with OSU going to the Rose Bowl. Better then I was expecting them to do this year.
 

Ranger REG said:
Gee, how East-centric of you (even if you're just a messenger). :\

Then again, I'm not surprised at all. You mainland folks take us islanders lightly.

Sorry, you guys keep going into overtime or winning by less than a field goal over bad teams.
 

Crothian said:
I want to see LSU lose and then have Kansas play WV in the National Championship game. I think that would be the most entertaining match ups of teams. I'm happy with OSU going to the Rose Bowl. Better then I was expecting them to do this year.

Of course, if you want to get into kind of crazy scenarios, it's probably possible to get a 2-loss team in the title game. Everyone except Ohio State, Kansas, and the Boise/Hawaii winner still has an opportunity to lose two games. If that happens, and Missouri beats Kansas handily before falling in the Big 12 title game, then it seems likely that a 2-loss team like USC or Georgia would play Ohio State for all the marbles.
 

drothgery said:
Sorry, you guys keep going into overtime or winning by less than a field goal over bad teams.
Well, if Stanford and/or USC have the guts to test their mettle against UH, bring it. I mean really, how hard is it to ship their butts over an ocean?

Bring it. :]
 

Ranger REG said:
Well, if Stanford and/or USC have the guts to test their mettle against UH, bring it. I mean really, how hard is it to ship their butts over an ocean?

Bring it. :]
Don't forget Michigan. Hawaii pretty much begged Michigan to let them come and play for the first game of the season. Michigan declined and scheduled Appalachian State instead. That was a smart move...

It's hard for teams like Boise and Hawaii to get a 1-and-1 matchup with good teams. They just don't want to play them.
 

Dimwhit said:
Don't forget Michigan. Hawaii pretty much begged Michigan to let them come and play for the first game of the season. Michigan declined and scheduled Appalachian State instead. That was a smart move...

It's hard for teams like Boise and Hawaii to get a 1-and-1 matchup with good teams. They just don't want to play them.

True. But if you're not going to get high-quality opposition, you pretty much have to stomp low-quality/mid-level opposition if you want to get any national recognition. Which Boise is pretty much doing (only close games were loss to UW and Nevada basketball score game), and Hawaii is not (triple overtime vs. LA tech, overtime vs. Fresno, two-point win over Nevada, overtime vs. San Jose State).
 

drothgery said:
True. But if you're not going to get high-quality opposition, you pretty much have to stomp low-quality/mid-level opposition if you want to get any national recognition. Which Boise is pretty much doing (only close games were loss to UW and Nevada basketball score game), and Hawaii is not (triple overtime vs. LA tech, overtime vs. Fresno, two-point win over Nevada, overtime vs. San Jose State).
I agree. But it's damned tough to do that every game for a season, no matter how good you are. Last year, Boise needed a last-second FG to beat San Jose. And they had another close call or two. Depending on what you consider close. They were tight with Idaho until the last 5 minutes of the game.

I think Hawaii is suffering from their abnormally weak schedule. Boise's was weak last year, but not like Hawaii's this year. It also doesn't help that the bottom half of the WAC sucks REALLY bad this year. I mean, it's terrible. I wish we could scrap a few WAC teams and join the Mountain West or something.
 

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