Combat Vigor: loophole?

Egres

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Combat Focus
The first time you make a successful attack during an encounter, you gain your combat focus
.

Combat Vigor
While you maintain your combat focus, you gain fast healing 2. You lose this benefit when your combat focus ends.

Does this mean that a fighter can search for, for example, a dog in a city street, attack it, gaining his combat focus and the fast healing?
 

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Egres said:
Combat Focus
The first time you make a successful attack during an encounter, you gain your combat focus
.

Combat Vigor
While you maintain your combat focus, you gain fast healing 2. You lose this benefit when your combat focus ends.

Does this mean that a fighter can search for, for example, a dog in a city street, attack it, gaining his combat focus and the fast healing?

Sure, if they are an Evil fighter that enjoys torturing and killing innocent puppies for pleasure (and for fast healing of course).
 

RigaMortus2 said:
Sure, if they are an Evil fighter that enjoys torturing and killing innocent puppies for pleasure (and for fast healing of course).

You could always attack for nonlethal at a -4 penalty. It certainly wouldn't be Good, but you might be able to slide by with Neutral.
 

I say let the wounded fighter hunt for bunnies and deers when it's dinner time! That'd be silly though this could even be brought down to the fighter carrying a jar of beetles and when he needs it he releases one and slams it flat with his club. Hurray healing for him. However finding a hard line where this would and would not work is tricky. After all a fire beetle as mentioned in DMG is only a small critter too, and there are tiny critters in MM's and thus in encounters. Why would they count and a released tiny dung beetle not lol.
 

Egres said:
Combat Focus
The first time you make a successful attack during an encounter, you gain your combat focus
.

Combat Vigor
While you maintain your combat focus, you gain fast healing 2. You lose this benefit when your combat focus ends.

Does this mean that a fighter can search for, for example, a dog in a city street, attack it, gaining his combat focus and the fast healing?

Does Combat Focus last beyond the encounter? If not, you're going to have to keep beating up dogs to keep healing.
 


I think it is beneath a fighter's dignity to attack a rat just to heal.

At least I *hope* so.

I think in my game I would require some kind of a minimum CR.

At first, level a dog would be fine. I had a 3rd level party get their buns kicked by a pair of guard dogs once.
 


sukael said:
You could always attack for nonlethal at a -4 penalty. It certainly wouldn't be Good, but you might be able to slide by with Neutral.

Dude, how is punching a puppy *not* Evil? Even if you don't try to kill it, you're *punching a puppy*.
 

It may not be precisely RAW, but I'd rule that the target has to be fighting back.

* imagines a Combat-Focus-having fighter being really unpleasant in taverns *
 

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