D&D (2024) Comeliness and Representation in Recent DnD Art

Would be right at home in Ravenloft though.
I would certainly be a decent place for it, and in a context that would make more sense, still to dark/gritty even for Ravenloft for me.

And frankly, I'd prefer if D&D in general was more dark and gritty. I guess that is the thing I don't like about some of the D&D art,* things being too "clean" and nice and polished.

*(I didn't say newer art, as it has always been a thing, but perhaps it has gotten more so.)
For me, I would want it more dark and gritty as well, but about the midpoint of where it currently is and how this image is. That would suit me very well.
 

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Another issue with art, what is gritty to one is not to another. I think it looks fairly gritty. 🤷‍♂️
Is it the blood, the shadows? What is gritty to you, as in your definition?

I was thinking this walking the dog, not sure if it will fall flat but here's my last attempt.

I grew up playing the violin. I listened to classical music, as my grandmother loved it.

I also listened to the bands of the 80s and 90s, ranging from Metal, to Rock, to Punk.

Which is to say, classical music to raw, dirty, punk, are all acceptable options. And everything in between.

So, give me some sweaty, dirty, rock and roll. Give me some 80s punk with beer flying through the air.

When I say gritty. That's what I mean. Get some mud and dirt in here. Get some sweat, some flesh, make it human.

Go watch some videos of some hard Muay Thai training, with some clinch work, look at the absolutely sweaty mess these guys turn into.

Give me that 80s punk, that 90s grunge, that sweaty rock and roll.

Conan style.
 

Another issue with art, what is gritty to one is not to another. I think it looks fairly gritty. 🤷‍♂️
That's just some lovely twinks having a nice stroll. When I say "gritty" I mean stuff like the art of Frank Frazetta, Gerald Brom and John Blanche.

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That's just some lovely twinks having a nice stroll. When I say "gritty" I mean stuff like the art of Frank Frazetta, Gerald Brom and John Blanche.

Googling around a bit, I'm kind of surprised how little blood and dirt are on the heroes, even as they behead things. And how little scarring they have. Of course there are probably low level cantrips for that.

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Didn't remember that the artist was Ken Kelly, but I have fond memories of the Horseclans covers. (Although as a whole they aren't as good when I go back to look now, several are still great).
 

Is it the blood, the shadows? What is gritty to you, as in your definition?
LOL I guess the opposite of the "clean" look?

I mean, there isn't anything specific. It is the style... it looks like the rain-washed dirty backstreets of London or something.

Now, it is not "super gritty" like the images @Crimson Longinus posted, just grittier than I like. (Those are much to gritty for D&D to me, but definitely a "swords & sorcery" style.)


Coming as I do from the old days of widely varying art styles back in the 80s and 90s, I don't believe D&D should adhere to a particular style. Dark and gritty is just as D&D as bright and shiny.
Dark and gritty, certainly, but to my mind this is too far in that direction.

Of course, other elements detract from the "D&D-ness" to me, but I am not falling into that trap again! ;)
 

Coming as I do from the old days of widely varying art styles back in the 80s and 90s, I don't believe D&D should adhere to a particular style. Dark and gritty is just as D&D as bright and shiny.
This is absolutely true, and I would expect the style to be different for every game. However, when you are putting a book together you need to have a coherent style so it hangs.

The solution, of course, is not to give the art much weight, it’s only one example out of infinite possibilities.
 

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