Complete Warrior, anybody got it? What's in it?

[Kahuna Burger]

Yeah, but it don't make sense. It was there just to clone Conan -- I wish they would have copied Fafhrd instead, he's much much cooler.

It don't make sense because in GH, magic had always existed, and will always exist. It's one of the laws of nature. Hence my "hate gravity" spoof.

I'm sure drugs and alcohol have existed just as long magic... If they played as strong a part in the world as magic does, would you consider it stupid to have a class which forsakes all use of herbalism or alchemy, had a flavor requirement agaisnt drugs and alcohol, and got bonuses to saves agaisnt poison as well as some fort/con style advantages from their enforced bodily purity?

I'm looking forward to playing a forsaker with one minor flavor change. She will be a former spell adict, who at some point realized she was depending more on the buffs and cures than her own abilities, and went cold turkey off magic. Since the class actually doesn't require you to attack magic users, or even avoid their company, and the magic destruction effects only ONE of the class abilities, not all of them, it works well for that concept.

The hate gravity spoof was too far off to make a point, btw, it falls down on too many levels. So it was just mildly funny, not argumentative...


Kahuna burger

 

[Gez]

I guess I prefer my homebrew "arcane paladin". (I say paladin only for the spellcasting/BAB combination.)

I have all spell/BAB combinations (BAB 20/Spell 4, BAB 15/Spell 6, BAB 15/Spell 9, BAB 10/Spell 9) for all magic (arcane, divine, nature), save psionic. Miss a "psionic cleric" and a "psionic paladin".

 

[Gez]

I'm sure drugs and alcohol have existed just as long magic... If they played as strong a part in the world as magic does, would you consider it stupid to have a class which forsakes all use of herbalism or alchemy, had a flavor requirement agaisnt drugs and alcohol, and got bonuses to saves agaisnt poison as well as some fort/con style advantages from their enforced bodily purity?

Actually, yes. Unless it's a AU-style "Champion of Temperance"...

Besides, it's not like alchemy and herbalism brings overwhelming boons to a character, so much that not using them is a privation that needs a class with special features to compensate.

 

[Aaron L]

"Technology killed my family, so I will forsake the use of it. However, my body has developed alternate strengths to compensate for my lack of technology. Watch as the puny bullets of technology bounce of my skin! See me run faster than the puny automobiles of technology!"

After reading about so many people wanting to play a Forsaker I was afraid I was the only one here to think they were hideously dumb

 

[comrade raoul]

How about prestige classes? Does anyone feel like listing them? Are there any especially cool or troublesome ones?

 

[Knight Otu]

I would very much like to see a table of contents for this book...

 

[Kwyn]

I'm really looking forward to this book.

Our group is very traditional and it took us forever to shift to 3.0 and then 3.5. When we moved to 3.5, we still hadn't even bought multiple copies of most of the splats, so this is a much needed addition for our group.

Knowing that now we'll have a full set of prc's updated to 3.5, as well as three new core classes really makes me happy. The Swashbuckler in particular looks attractive since I like lightly armored fighter types.

I think that anyone who didn't invest heavily in the 3.0 splats, this is a must have.

As to the person who said the fighter wasn't helped, I think that by default, the addition of new combat feats favors the fighter over anyone else. They don't necessarily have to be fighter exclusive. Most non-fighter melee types are pretty strapped for feats. The addition of even more feats simply serves to crowd their choices even more while the fighter is able to accomodate the new feats by replacing some older feats that were perhaps only considered "average".

Picking up my copy this afternoon.

 

[jester47]

How bout a table of contents?

This sounds like The Complete Warrior will at last allow me to dump off the splatbooks. I was keeping them around for some of the feats and PrCs. Most of which seem to be in the Complete Warrior.

Magic of Faerun and the DMG 3.5 covers all the cool arcane stuff and some of the druid ranger stuff from masters of the wild I thought was too weird mechanicly. Song and Silence buffs were lackluster for bards and rogues, and everything else gets into this book it seems. Cool, I may be one step closer to done.

Aaron.

 

[Kwyn]

Oh, I have seen here, and elsewhere, complaints about the sample characters for each PRC.

I think it's a terrific addition. As a DM, I love to have ready made characters available. Not only does it help me understand how the class works, it lets me just drop one in on the fly, or add it as a planned part of my adventure, without having to spend an hour on it. A great tool for DM's everywhere.

I can understand how players might not have much use for it, but those behind the screen no doubt have been asking for this.

 

[the Jester]

Another request for, at least, a list of the prestige classes!

Actually, I may be going to buy it today... debating, debating... not so much money these days...ermph...