Complete Warrior preview & speculation

[John Crichton]

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20031012a

Okay, I'm sure many folks have read about this by now. I'm not looking forward to the 36 PrCs (although I'm sure they'll be a few good ones in there), but the guardian familiar sounds cool and I like the fact that it doesn't just seem like a class splatbook - they are trying to concentrate on all classes that deal with combat, which would be all of them.

We all knew that this was going to be part of a series but now it is confirmed. So we'll probably see something on magic next. I wonder if they'll make something like the old 2e Creative Campaigning book for this series. Besides the old Arms & Equipment Guide, that was my most used and favorite 2e book.

 

[heimdall]

It sounds a lot like the Combat put out White Wolf to expand combat in their Storyteller setting a long time ago.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20031012a

Okay, I'm sure many folks have read about this by now. I'm not looking forward to the 36 PrCs (although I'm sure they'll be a few good ones in there), but the guardian familiar sounds cool and I like the fact that it doesn't just seem like a class splatbook - they are trying to concentrate on all classes that deal with combat, which would be all of them.

I wonder how many of these PrCs we've seen, and that they're updating for 3.5. Some of them desperately need updating; it'd be nice if WotC did a series of updates on their site.

Brad

 

[Mordane76]

I wonder how many of these PrCs we've seen, and that they're updating for 3.5. Some of them desperately need updating; it'd be nice if WotC did a series of updates on their site.

Brad

True -- I'd be really upset if I bought and all the PrC were re-writes, though. I understand they're busy at WotC, but I also would like to see 3.0->3.5 rewrites on the website.


That being said -- I think the modified core classes, the familiars, and the other bits of mechanics will be very useful. I'm hoping one of those modified core classes is a battle-wizard of some sort; someone with a cleric's BAB, maybe reduced arcane spell failure in armor, a bit more weapon proficiency, and slightly altered spellcasting progression... I know it sounds a lot like a bard or an eldritch knight, but I think they could make an arcanist without the bard abilities, and with access to 6-7th level Wiz/Sor spells at their highest levels as something core.

I'm also interested in the specialized fighting styles...

 

[John Crichton]

I'm also interested in the specialized fighting styles...

As yes, I forgot to mention that. I am very curious as to what this section will contain.

As for some rewritten PrCs, I wouldn't mind a few but I didn't like many of the 3e ones to begin with.

 

[gfunk]

it'd be nice if WotC did a series of updates on their site.

I agree, but it is not bloodly likely.

Why give away something for free when you can "update" it and sell it as a hardcover splatbook?

BTW, yes I am WotC whore too. You can be sure that the Complete Warrior's Splatbook will adorn my bookshelf.

 

[Mordane76]

I agree, but it is not bloodly likely.

Why give away something for free when you can "update" it and sell it as a hardcover splatbook?

Because... it builds customer loyalty when you give your customers an easy service for free; if everything you do for your customers costs them money, they will sooner or later look elsewhere for a company that provides the little perks.

Now, what we're asking for is by no means small -- WotC has put out a lot of PrC that could easily adorn this new splatbook as 3.5-updated, but I think that would piss off a lot of customers if the book contained no new PrCs and only updates. Now, if a few of them were updates in the books, and a few more were part of a web enhancement for the product or billed as a special offering for the website.

 

[Valiantheart]

50-60 pages of PrCs is way to much for me out of a 160 page book. I cancelled my pre-order and will probably wait for a chance to thumb through it.

 

[John Crichton]

50-60 pages of PrCs is way to much for me out of a 160 page book. I cancelled my pre-order and will probably wait for a chance to thumb through it.

I doubt it will be that many pages of PrCs. I'd say closer to 40-45. I can't see the book being over 1/3 PrCs...

 

[demiurge1138]

I'm hoping one of those modified core classes is a battle-wizard of some sort; someone with a cleric's BAB, maybe reduced arcane spell failure in armor, a bit more weapon proficiency, and slightly altered spellcasting progression...

This sounds like the warmage from the Miniatures Handbook. d6 HD, light amor proficiency, simple weapons (and a few others, I believe) proficiency, and class abilties that reduce spell failure.

But, back to TCW, the guardian familiars sound interesting, and I don't mind PrCs that much. I'll definitely give it a look-through if I get the chance.

Demiurge out.