Completely Blank Posts?

lowkey13

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
So I've seen this twice recently- post that have completely disappeared. No text, no nothing, but the post is still there (in other words, you can see the post, just no text in it).

Here are two examples-

User [MENTION=6994407]acpitz 1[/MENTION]
Post #50, today, in thread about gender differences in stats-
http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?659384-If-there-s-one-game-where-stat-differences-are-justified-what-game-would-that-be/page6&p=7608606&viewfull=1#post7608606

User [MENTION=15700]Sacrosanct[/MENTION]
In Morrus's poll on favourite edition that's not 5e-
http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?659419-Favourite-D-amp-D-edition-that%92s-not-5E/page14&p=7608428&viewfull=1#post7608428

(links may not work, due to blocking).

Anyway , I know that [MENTION=15700]Sacrosanct[/MENTION] is unable to see his own post as well. Maybe a glitch?
 

acpitz 1

Visitor
No glitch.

If you are not meaning by "glitch" that our mod squad man shoots stuff down.

He no like, he censor.

It's the glitch for you.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
No glitch.

If you are not meaning by "glitch" that our mod squad man shoots stuff down.

He no like, he censor.

It's the glitch for you.
Blanking out posts isn’t the style of any mod I know. If a post is going to be completely eliminated, it will be completely eliminated- including the poster ID and positive. It would be as if the post never occurred (except for any quotes of it).

If text were simply being removed, there would be a Mod note telling everyone WHY...typically in red text.
 

acpitz 1

Visitor
Blanking out posts isn’t the style of any mod I know. If a post is going to be completely eliminated, it will be completely eliminated- including the poster ID and positive. It would be as if the post never occurred (except for any quotes of it).

If text were simply being removed, there would be a Mod note telling everyone WHY...typically in red text.
Things change.

And some people can't handle the powers ...

EDIT: can -> can't
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
Trust me, that is NOT what is happening.

There are only a few mods, and that isn’t the procedure this site has operated under for years.

In addition, I can tell you personally that it is not the case because I have recently found 2 spam reports that also directed to blanked out posts. The anti-spam controls would completely erase the post, as described and ban the poster, not leave a blank post. Just blanking the post leaves the spammer free to continue making spam posts. That’s nonsense from a mod’s perspective.

And the spammer has no motivation to remove their own spam.

That leaves some kind of glitch as the most probable cause. Occam’s Razor.
 
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Dannyalcatraz

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Dude, I don’t know where you come from or where else you post/lurk, but what you think is going on here simply isn’t happening.

Here’s another way I can tell you it’s a glitch, not an intention act: if a mod goes into a post to edit it, the system automatically leaves a note saying who edited it and when, just like you will find at the bottom of the note I copypasted from the bottom of your post you recently restored:

Last edited by acpitz 1; Today at 12:03 AM.
Or the note that just appeared in your response above, or now in my post. Those notes won’t appear in an edit screen, either, so cannot be removed.
 
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Dannyalcatraz

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[MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION] [MENTION=177]Umbran[/MENTION] [MENTION=52905]darjr[/MENTION]

As I noted above, I’ve personally encountered two blacked out posts by spammers (whom I subsequently banned). The text wasn’t merely color matched to the back, because the reported text didn’t show even when I quoted it to check. What had been there was simply gone.

Something odd is going on.
 

acpitz 1

Visitor
Dude, I don’t know where you come from or where else you post/lurk, but what you think is going on here simply isn’t happening.

Here’s another way I can tell you it’s a glitch, not an intention act: if a mod goes into a post to edit it, the system automatically leaves a note saying who edited it and when, just like you will find at the bottom of the note I copypasted from the bottom of your post you recently restored:



Or the note that just appeared in your response above, or now in my post. Those notes won’t appear in an edit screen, either, so cannot be removed.
And those doesn't appear when admins or mods don't want them to appear. Also why was my post up for ~10mins before it went down? About the same time one needs to read it through and make delete.

Yes. Those edit notes come up when us mere mortals do something ... but moderation can be done with out trace. You can just wipe the content and that's it.

I've been around and seen this thing happen not only nowadays but back in 90's as well. Decades online teaches something about people and how they waltz you know ...

EDIT: I do wish I could share your trust ... but I don't seen too much. Been through too much. Unfortunately.

EDIT #2 13min later: Let's see if this shows.
 
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acpitz 1

Visitor
Hmm.. I see no edit notification on the post above. do you?

EDIT 1013 It seems that if you edit immediately it doesn't show. Test it yourself.
 
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Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
Yes, an immediate or reasonably quick (a few minutes, I know, but I haven’t tested the limits) self-edit will not trigger the notification. A mod edit will, regardless of timing.

No, we can’t turn those notifications off, AFAIK.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
[MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION] [MENTION=177]Umbran[/MENTION] [MENTION=52905]darjr[/MENTION]

I think I may have discovered the trigger for the posts disappearing: every one I know of that got blacked out was reported.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
Oh yeah, in case anyone gets any bright ideas: anyone caught abusing the report button while this bug is roaming free WILL be dealt with.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Things change.

And some people can't handle the powers ...

EDIT: can -> can't
What is this about, [MENTION=6994407]acpitz 1[/MENTION]? You appear to be a new member who has decided to start insulting us. Something up?
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
[MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION] [MENTION=177]Umbran[/MENTION] [MENTION=52905]darjr[/MENTION]

I think I may have discovered the trigger for the posts disappearing: every one I know of that got blacked out was reported.
Huh. Now that IS odd. What on Earth could cause that all of a sudden? The software hasn’t changed recently.

I’m away until tomorrow night, but we might have to disable the post report button if it’s suddenly doing that.

The software technically shouldn’t even *allow* a blank post, or one with less than (I think 3?) characters.
 

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