Complexity in D&D: Grapple

[brehobit]

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I am making a "cheat sheet" of rules that I commonly need to use by copying and reformatting parts of the SRD. The grapple rules take more than a page after some serious reformatting (to save space) and using a 9 point font. (about a page and a half at this point)

No wonder I can't keep them all in my head...
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I actually think it is helpful to have such detailed rules so everyone knows what to expect. But still...

Mark

 

[Festivus]

We went through an excercise while learning 3.5 (we are still learning btw), and had a nice long discussion on the message boards at my site about grappling with grapple. Yeah, it's complex, but what I did was forced the weenies to grapple the heros in an effort to reinforce our discussions on the message boards. Grapple to us is now quite easy after only a few session sof doing that.

Sean K Reynolds had a nice document on it... but it was 3 pages long!

http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/misc/grappling.html

I'd love to see yours when done if you don't mind sharing.

 

[werk]

<rant>
I am making a "cheat sheet" of rules that I commonly need to use by copying and reformatting parts of the SRD. The grapple rules take more than a page after some serious reformatting (to save space) and using a 9 point font. (about a page and a half at this point)

I have one of those too. They call it a DM screen...I got mine from Paizo.

 

[Stalker0]

I think grapple is one of those effects that you sit down with your group and practice a few times they'll become comfortable with it. Practice, Practice, Practice!!

 

[brehobit]

I have one of those too. They call it a DM screen...I got mine from Paizo.

yeah,
I thought about doing that, but wanted to make my own instead. Is the DM screen pretty good?

I _would_ like to know how they got all the grapple rules on a screen. I just don't see it taking up less than a full page if you want all of it...

Mark

 

[werk]

yeah,
I thought about doing that, but wanted to make my own instead. Is the DM screen pretty good?

I _would_ like to know how they got all the grapple rules on a screen. I just don't see it taking up less than a full page if you want all of it...

Mark

I think you might be over complicating things a little bit.

Grapple:
AoO
Melee touch attack
Opposed check (BAB+Str+Size)
- win, damage and grappling
- lose = fail


What else do you need at hand, really? If you are just copying the SRD word for word, that's not a cheat sheet, that's a copy, and does not work any better than the source material as a quick reference.


I like the Paizo screen, it's got lots of handy stuff on there, but it is Eberron.