Converting Epic Level Creatures

[freyar]

Disguise ranks are a good place to get Search ranks.

Deadly Precision, Combat Reflexes, Flyby Attack, Hold the Line, Quicken Spell, Improved Initiative, Maximize Spell, Improved Sneak Attack, Automatic Quicken Spell?

 

[Cleon]

Disguise ranks are a good place to get Search ranks.

I'd rather give them full ranks in Search and pay for it by halving Disguise and Sleight of Hand.

Deadly Precision, Combat Reflexes, Flyby Attack, Hold the Line, Quicken Spell, Improved Initiative, Maximize Spell, Improved Sneak Attack, Automatic Quicken Spell?

We can't give it Automatic Quicken Spell because that requires 30 ranks in Spellcraft.

How about Sneak Attack of Opportunity?

That would require the General have a rogue's Opportunist special ability, but I was assuming it would get that with a bunch of other features of a 20th level rogue.

 

[Shade]

I'd rather give them full ranks in Search and pay for it by halving Disguise and Sleight of Hand.

I'd rather not halve Sleight of Hand. How about halving Concentration? It should still have more than enough ranks to cast in battle without worry.

How about Sneak Attack of Opportunity?

That would require the General have a rogue's Opportunist special ability, but I was assuming it would get that with a bunch of other features of a 20th level rogue.

I had considered that feat, but didn't mention it for that very reason. However, I'd be quite happy to give it opportunist and a few other high-level rogue abilities. Defensive roll? Crippling strike?

 

[Cleon]

I'd rather not halve Sleight of Hand. How about halving Concentration? It should still have more than enough ranks to cast in battle without worry.

I had considered that feat, but didn't mention it for that very reason. However, I'd be quite happy to give it opportunist and a few other high-level rogue abilities. Defensive roll? Crippling strike?

Oh heck, why not just say it has all the class features of a 20th level rogue. That would give the General 4 rogue special abilities - Crippling Strike, Improved Evasion, Opportunist, Slippery Mind?

 

[freyar]

I can go for that. In the OA underbar, give him all the class features of a 20th level ninja, instead of just sudden strike, in that case. Maybe mention alternate feats, too.

 

[Shade]

All sounds good. In that case, care to revise the chosen feats, since it now qualifies for additional epic feats due to those class features?

 

[Cleon]

All sounds good. In that case, care to revise the chosen feats, since it now qualifies for additional epic feats due to those class features?

Well Dexterous Fortitude or Dexterous Will would only give it +2 or +3 on one save per round. It'd be better off just getting Epic Fortitude or Epic Will.

General Monkey doesn't have the skill or stat prereqs for Self-Concealment or Epic Dodge.

Crippling Strike seems the only Rogue-style Epic Feat that seems useful.

 

[freyar]

I'd swap out Automatic Quicken for Sneak Attack of Opportunity now. I'd also be ok with swapping out either of the metamagic feats, but those aren't epic.

 

[Cleon]

I'd swap out Automatic Quicken for Sneak Attack of Opportunity now. I'd also be ok with swapping out either of the metamagic feats, but those aren't epic.

Crippling Strike seems far more effective than Improved Sneak Attack, should we swap those around?

 

[freyar]

That could work too.