Converting Epic Level Creatures
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demiurge1138
Inventor of Super-Toast
...where does it keep them, though? I assume that this means that thunderbirds have lairs?
freyar
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Tucked into its feathers of course! 
Well, it does have a special rebirthing place, but I was thinking of items that it could use itself. Rings, a cloak, something like that. Or it could wear a bandolier. We could go with no treasure
if you have a strong feeling, but, if a dragon can use magic items, why can't the Thunder Bird?
Well, it does have a special rebirthing place, but I was thinking of items that it could use itself. Rings, a cloak, something like that. Or it could wear a bandolier. We could go with no treasure
if you have a strong feeling, but, if a dragon can use magic items, why can't the Thunder Bird?
Shade
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Updated with flavor text.
If we want to let it use items (which makes sense, considering its vast horde and keen intellect), we shoudl shift some skill ranks to Use Magic Device. I'd recommend simply dropping Knowledge (geography) and transferring all those ranks to UMD.
I can't really picture it wearing a cape, but I could see it with rings and maybe a belt or bandolier, as freyar suggested.
Thoughts?
If we want to let it use items (which makes sense, considering its vast horde and keen intellect), we shoudl shift some skill ranks to Use Magic Device. I'd recommend simply dropping Knowledge (geography) and transferring all those ranks to UMD.
I can't really picture it wearing a cape, but I could see it with rings and maybe a belt or bandolier, as freyar suggested.
Thoughts?
freyar
Extradimensional Explorer
UMD is fine if we want it to use spell-trigger items; I wasn't necessarily suggesting that, though I can see it.
No idea what the gp value of this treasure should be. But maybe a ring of freedom of movement would be good. If it can afford it, a ring of spell turning would be nice, but I could see a pair of friend shielding rings (one for it, one for someone else). Maybe something like a rod of security or negation. Some kind of amulet? Something to help it banish creatures would be great, but I can't think of what would be good for that.
No idea what the gp value of this treasure should be. But maybe a ring of freedom of movement would be good. If it can afford it, a ring of spell turning would be nice, but I could see a pair of friend shielding rings (one for it, one for someone else). Maybe something like a rod of security or negation. Some kind of amulet? Something to help it banish creatures would be great, but I can't think of what would be good for that.
demiurge1138
Inventor of Super-Toast
Yeah! Use Magic Device!
Shade
Monster Junkie
Updated with UMD ranks and a few other suggestions above.
A giant eagle (L) weighs 500 pounds.
Giant owls have no listed weight.
Thunderbirds have no listed weight.
The phoenix has no listed weight.
Go with 500 pounds?
For languages, freyar suggested Auran, Common, Celestial, Draconic, Sylvan? Look good?
For CR, it's about on par with the CR 31 dream larva. Does that sound reasonable?
A giant eagle (L) weighs 500 pounds.
Giant owls have no listed weight.
Thunderbirds have no listed weight.
The phoenix has no listed weight.
Go with 500 pounds?
For languages, freyar suggested Auran, Common, Celestial, Draconic, Sylvan? Look good?
For CR, it's about on par with the CR 31 dream larva. Does that sound reasonable?
demiurge1138
Inventor of Super-Toast
The languages and CR sound reasonable.
freyar
Extradimensional Explorer
I like the gem of seeing. How much of this stuff can it "afford"? Here's my priority order: ring of freedom of movement, gem of seeing, amulet of mighty fists, epic ring of ironskin, bracers of armor. If we're going with UMD, we should load it with some staves and wands, though they can be less expensive perhaps.
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