Converting Epic Level Creatures

[Shade]

Hmm...that's kind of...GREAT!

 

[Cleon]

Hmm...that's kind of...GREAT!

He's frosty cool.

We still need a range for the Terrifying Presence.

I reckon it's at least as fearsome as an Ancient Dragon's Frightful Presence, and that has a 300 foot range. Would that suit you?

Oh, and we were talking about giving him some more equipment, namely +10 armour and a +10 shield (or a +14 suit of armour or shield?) and up to 2 million gp worth of other gear.

I'm leaning towards just a shield, maybe a heavy adamantine +5 shield of exceptional arrow deflection, since regular armour would hamper Tiger's +10 Dex bonus.

That's a +13 item, so we've saves 190,000 gp from our armour budget which can be spent on non-emcumbering defensive gear - that's enough for +8 bracers of armor, +5 amulet of natural armor, +5 cloak of resistance and a scarab of protection and still leave 13,000 gp in change!

 

[freyar]

That's a pretty nice version of frightful presence. I'm a tad confused on the discussion previously about frightful presence, though; a dragon's normally causes creatures with fewer HD to become shaken and creatures of 4HD or less to become panicked, which seems pretty similar to General Tiger.

Suggested equipment appeals.

 

[Shade]

I'm not fond of a shield for him (unless its a buckler), since he'll lose one of his claw attacks (or an off-hand claw attack if wielding his longsword 1-handed).

How about making a less "good" version of this for him?

Armor of the Celestial Battalion: This bright silver or gold +7 chainmail is so fine and light that it can be worn under normal clothing without revealing its presence, though most owners wear it openly and with pride. It has a maximum Dexterity bonus of +10, no armor check penalty, and an arcane spell failure chance of 10%. It is considered light armor, and it allows the wearer to fly at will (as the fly spell). Furthermore, the wearer is at all times surrounded by a magic circle against evil effect (as the spell) which, if dispelled, can be created again as a free action.

Caster Level: 20th; Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Craft Epic Magic Arms and Armor, creator must be good, magic circle against evil; Market Price: 616,300 gp; Cost to Create: 308,300 gp + 16,160 XP.

We could still use the shield for General Ox.

 

[Shade]

That's a pretty nice version of frightful presence. I'm a tad confused on the discussion previously about frightful presence, though; a dragon's normally causes creatures with fewer HD to become shaken and creatures of 4HD or less to become panicked, which seems pretty similar to General Tiger.

My problem was that most creatures would simply be shaken (except pathetic creatures with no business facing him in the first place). The fear aura would have made all creatures panicked (shaken with a successful save). Cleon's splits the difference nicely.

 

[Cleon]

I'm not fond of a shield for him (unless its a buckler), since he'll lose one of his claw attacks (or an off-hand claw attack if wielding his longsword 1-handed).

How about making a less "good" version of this for him?

Armor of the Celestial Battalion: This bright silver or gold +7 chainmail is so fine and light that it can be worn under normal clothing without revealing its presence, though most owners wear it openly and with pride. It has a maximum Dexterity bonus of +10, no armor check penalty, and an arcane spell failure chance of 10%. It is considered light armor, and it allows the wearer to fly at will (as the fly spell). Furthermore, the wearer is at all times surrounded by a magic circle against evil effect (as the spell) which, if dispelled, can be created again as a free action.

Caster Level: 20th; Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Craft Epic Magic Arms and Armor, creator must be good, magic circle against evil; Market Price: 616,300 gp; Cost to Create: 308,300 gp + 16,160 XP.

We could still use the shield for General Ox.

Doesn't Ox use a 2-handed mace?

Still, I like the above armour. We'd need to change the magic circle against evil to a magic circle against law and swap the fly for something else, since Tiger can already fly. Maybe freedom of movement? Increase the enhancement bonus to +9 chainmail and it should be worth around a million.

Then we can add a +6 cloak of epic resistance, +6 amulet of epic natural armour and a scarab of protection for the other million gp worth of defensive gear.

 

[Shade]

That all sounds good (except vs. chaos, since he's lawful).

Updated.

 

[freyar]

Urgh, is the 10% spell failure chance ok? It somewhat nerfs his casting. But he looks pretty good.

 

[Shade]

Urgh, is the 10% spell failure chance ok? It somewhat nerfs his casting. But he looks pretty good.

I find it acceptable, since he seems primarily a warrior before spellcaster. We can lower it if you'd prefer, though.

 

[freyar]

It's ok, just wanted to make sure we thought about it.

Just need org, CR, and weight, I think. Weight, I can handle easily, sort of. Both balors and pit fiends are 12ft tall, and he's 9 ft, so we should divide the evil outsiders' weights by 2.37 for proportional scaling. However, the balor weights 4500 lb and the pit fiend 800 lb, so that gives us something between roughly 350 lb or 1900 lb! Split the difference and go with 1000 lb?

For org, he's supposed to be accompanied by 100 loyal tigers, but we'll need to reduce the number and increase the CR. Any ideas?