Converting Epic Level Creatures

[Cleon]

Woohoo, an update! What's next on these?

It's missing their "Reflect Any Attack" ability.

I thought we'd figured that one out?

 

[freyar]

Can't remember; I'll have to comb back through this thread later.

 

[Cleon]

Can't remember; I'll have to comb back through this thread later.

I checked back through the thread and we haven't done the Ultimate Reflection Defence yet.

 

[freyar]

Ok, here's what we have from the Wrath of the Immortals:

Draedens have 99% Anti-Magic. That, plus their many other defenses, serve to protect them from most attack forms.

And Mortis notes the following defenses from the Immortals Set:

4. The creature has a Power ability believed to be unique to its race. By expending only 5 PP, a draeden can reproduce the exact type and strength of any incoming Power attack. In play, this new form of Power attack is called “Reflect.” Example: An Immortal declares a Power attack against the draeden. The DM chooses to Reflect. Whatever force and type of attack is revealed by the attacker, the DM reveals an identical effect and force, but only deducts 5 PP as the cost to the monster.
5. A draeden can cross any dimensional or planar boundary by expending 10 PP. If seriously threatened, a draeden will usually use magic to escape across dimensions or planar boundaries if possible.
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7. It cannot be affected by normal weapons or poison, but has no other special immunities.

Not sure I want to tie all the defenses to power points, since we're doing a non-psionic version as a base. Any other thoughts before we get to it?

 

[Cleon]

Not sure I want to tie all the defenses to power points, since we're doing a non-psionic version as a base. Any other thoughts before we get to it?

If I remember correctly, those aren't Psionic power points they're Divine power points. 3rd edition D&D doesn't have an equivalent to those.

We'll just have to decide on another resource they must give up to Reflect The Attack.

 

[freyar]

Frankly, an action is probably the most valuable thing it has. It'd need to be immediate, I guess, which you might be thinking is not enough. Maybe it can only do that every so often?

 

[Cleon]

Frankly, an action is probably the most valuable thing it has. It'd need to be immediate, I guess, which you might be thinking is not enough. Maybe it can only do that every so often?

Well an immediate action limits it to once per round, which might be sufficient.

 

[Mortis]

If I remember correctly, those aren't Psionic power points they're Divine power points.

Power points were also the equivalent of xp for an Immortal level game. IIRC each power point is equivalent to either 1,000 or 10,000 xp.

Making it an immediate action seems like a good compromise.

Regards
Mortis

 

[Cleon]

Power points were also the equivalent of xp for an Immortal level game. IIRC each power point is equivalent to either 1,000 or 10,000 xp.

That sounds familiar, but I've never actually ran any Immortal Set games so don't know off the top of my head.

It'd be easy enough to look it up, but as Third Edition doesn't have any Divine resources to manage there doesn't seem much point doing so.

Making it an immediate action seems like a good compromise.

Regards
Mortis

Yes, an immediate action seems to be the way we're heading.

 

[freyar]

Let me see what I think we have here:

1) DR X/epic and immunity to poison with X big (well, it says "immunity to normal weapons" but I think epic is more sensible than magic for the DR)
2) plane shift, as standard or immediate?
3) reflect an attack as an immediate action. Does it take damage from the original attack? It looks like it from the original.