Converting Epic Level Creatures

[Cleon]

When I said thrash around, I meant reach. I thought that's what Shade meant too. Anyone know how big around these tentacles are supposed to be? That might help.

Their illustration in the Immortals Set shows the tentacles as being about one-thirtieth as thick as they are long. Unfortunately, the illustration doesn't match the proportions in their description. The central core in the picture is about 18% of the width, not the stated 10% - maybe the tentacle-mouths can retract?

If the "tentacles" are as thick in the picture, and the core is 10000 feet wide (the stated minimum thickness), the tentacles should be about 900-950 feet thick. The mouth at the end of the tentacle is 2-3 times wider than the tentacle itself, but is wider than it is tall.

That suggests a typical Draeden has a 10,000 foot diameter core, with tentacles 900 foot thick reaching up to 45,000 ft long which end in mouths about 2500 foot wide and 1200 foot tall.

 

[freyar]

Wow, that suggests a reach of around 1000 ft (plus) and a maw of around 1000 ft also. Whew!

 

[Cleon]

Wow, that suggests a reach of around 1000 ft (plus) and a maw of around 1000 ft also. Whew!

Yes, if the "plus" in 1000 ft (plus) is over eight miles...

 

[Mortis]

This would involve giving the draeden some divine ranks but how about the divine ability 'Annihilating Strike'?

Actually here's the text:

Annihilating Strike

Prerequisites

Divine rank 11, base attack bonus +20, Str 25.

Benefit

When the deity strikes with a weapon or natural weapon, the opponent struck might be obliterated. Creatures, attended objects, and magic items must make Fortitude saves (DC 20 + the deity’s rank + the damage dealt) or be reduced to -10 hit points and killed outright. Unattended, nonmagical objects are obliterated. The deity can destroy up to 1,000 cubic feet (a 10-foot cube) of nonliving matter per rank, so the ability destroys only part of any very large object or structure targeted.

Notes

Deities with a rank equal to or greater than the attacking deity are not subject to this ability. This ability has no effect on objects or effects that are not subject to physical attacks.

Suggested Portfolio Elements

Death, justice, vengeance, war.


Regards
Mortis

 

[Cleon]

This would involve giving the draeden some divine ranks but how about the divine ability 'Annihilating Strike'?

There doesn't seem much support for that in the original text, I'd be more concerned about developing their ability to return attacks.

 

[freyar]

Well, their length is 8 miles. Doesn't mean they can move 8 miles in a round!

 

[Cleon]

Well, their length is 8 miles. Doesn't mean they can move 8 miles in a round!

No, they move eighteen miles! At least that's what the original stats said.

 

[freyar]

That's their whole body. Don't we want essentially the end of the tube?

 

[Cleon]

That's their whole body. Don't we want essentially the end of the tube?

We're not talking at cross purposes here are we?

The 18 miles I referred to was the Draeden's speed in the Immortal set, as in it has "Move: 18 miles (6 miles)".

 

[freyar]

I think we are maybe talking at cross purposes. Since we're doing just a conversion of a single tentacle, I thought we want just the usual speed that a single tentacle would move at on its own. The 18 mile movement of the entire body should be some sort of "hyperdrive" that it doesn't use a whole lot, right?