Converting Greyhawk monsters

[freyar]

Doesn't that seem a bit much for a CR 8 swarm? Swarms aren't necessarily easy to get rid of.

 

[Shade]

Doesn't that seem a bit much for a CR 8 swarm? Swarms aren't necessarily easy to get rid of.

Exactly. A single yphoz might have a tough time attaching to characters with decent AC, but the swarm is an auto success.

 

[Cleon]

Exactly. A single yphoz might have a tough time attaching to characters with decent AC, but the swarm is an auto success.

Frankly, I'd rather increase the CR than keep the low Blood Drain.

Going by the numbers roughly 4 to 5 Yphozs in the swarm hitting per round (since an individual Yphoz averages 1.5 damage and the Swarm does 2d6). If each does normal 1 Con blood drain, that's 1d8 Con.

At the very least I think they should do 1d4 Con Blood Drain, like a Dire Weasel or Stirge.

How about they do 1d4 Con normally, but 1d8 Con against helpless (i.e. paralysed) opponents, who'd be unable to brush them off?

 

[Shade]

Frankly, I'd rather increase the CR than keep the low Blood Drain.

I'd be OK with increasing the CR. Freyar?

Going by the numbers roughly 4 to 5 Yphozs in the swarm hitting per round (since an individual Yphoz averages 1.5 damage and the Swarm does 2d6). If each does normal 1 Con blood drain, that's 1d8 Con.

At the very least I think they should do 1d4 Con Blood Drain, like a Dire Weasel or Stirge.

How about they do 1d4 Con normally, but 1d8 Con against helpless (i.e. paralysed) opponents, who'd be unable to brush them off?

While I follow your logic, I'm not fond of the "double whammy" on paralyzed prey. How about 1d6 Con across the board, with a CR increase to compensate?

 

[freyar]

1d6 Con and CR boosted to 9? I guess that's ok since they wouldn't be too much worse than hellwasps then.

 

[Cleon]

While I follow your logic, I'm not fond of the "double whammy" on paralyzed prey. How about 1d6 Con across the board, with a CR increase to compensate?

So I guess a triple whammy is out of the question?

1d6 Con is fine by me.

Wasn't that what I proposed in the first place?

 

[freyar]

More or less. But do you agree to increase CR to at least 9?

 

[Cleon]

More or less. But do you agree to increase CR to at least 9?

Challenge Rating 9 is OK by me.

 

[Shade]

Updated. Finished?

 

[freyar]

Let them be done!