Converting Greyhawk monsters

[Cleon]

Or, since the original monster is worth 25000 gp, we could downsize to Large, like a normal otyugh.

I would be willing to go along with that if Shade prefers it too.

It just seemed a bit little for an 18 HD Aberration.

 

[freyar]

Yes, it would be a tad small. Let's see what Shade thinks.

 

[Shade]

Let's downsize to Large. It can always be on the "big end" of Large (maybe start advancement to Huge immediately?).

 

[Cleon]

Let's downsize to Large. It can always be on the "big end" of Large (maybe start advancement to Huge immediately?).

So, something like 18-20 HD (Large); 21-35 HD (Huge); 36-48 HD (Gargantuan) ?

That'd be within tolerable limits.

 

[freyar]

That would work for me. I could see toning down Str a touch, but the other abilities still look ok.

 

[Cleon]

That would work for me. I could see toning down Str a touch, but the other abilities still look ok.

Updating Working Draft.

I adjusted the tendril damage, AC and the attacks for its smaller size but left the rest unchanged.

For toning down the Strength, how about knocking 4 off to make it Str 23?

 

[Shade]

For toning down the Strength, how about knocking 4 off to make it Str 23?

Sounds good.

 

[Cleon]

Sounds good.

Updating Working Draft.

The Soften Special Attack is the main issue we need to sort out. Any ideas?

 

[Shade]

Here's what we've got to go on...

and its special attack abilitity is that it softens hard things. Every time it hits, its opponent goes down one Armor Class (so +2 armor becomes +1, or a Wyvern with Armor Cass 3 goes to 4).

Taken literally, it reduces armor or natural armor by 1. I'm not sure I like the reduction of natural armor, though.

Personally, I'd expand it to reducing the hardness of any object it touches. If we want to expand it to reduce natural armor, I could see reducing material-based or "-" DR as well. I don't think it should reduce DR/magic, DR/alignment, or DR/epic.

The real question is whether the hardness reduction to objects should be permanent or temporary, and the duration of reduction for natural armor and/or DR.

 

[Cleon]

Taken literally, it reduces armor or natural armor by 1. I'm not sure I like the reduction of natural armor, though.

Personally, I'd expand it to reducing the hardness of any object it touches. If we want to expand it to reduce natural armor, I could see reducing material-based or "-" DR as well. I don't think it should reduce DR/magic, DR/alignment, or DR/epic.

The original monster could soften any form of armour, natural or artificial, so I'd carry that over for our conversion.

It should definitely also reduce hardness and (Ex) Damage Reduction. I'm wondering whether we should increase the amount it reduces.

Maybe allow a Fort save throw to reduce/negate the softening?

The real question is whether the hardness reduction to objects should be permanent or temporary, and the duration of reduction for natural armor and/or DR.

I'd make it temporary. 10 minutes or so would be enough.