Converting Greyhawk monsters

[freyar]

If we bump the HD up, I can go for fast healing 5. And how about 15 HD?

I also like fire plus acid. How about this? Make the acid as the usual mouther spittle and make the fire act as a splash weapon (a la alchemist's fire)? And have it burn rather than just do 1 extra round's damage?

 

[Cleon]

If we bump the HD up, I can go for fast healing 5. And how about 15 HD?

I also like fire plus acid. How about this? Make the acid as the usual mouther spittle and make the fire act as a splash weapon (a la alchemist's fire)? And have it burn rather than just do 1 extra round's damage?

So something like 1d6 acid plus 1d6 fire on a direct hit, plus 1d3 fire in a 5 ft. splash, with a direct hit requiring a saving throw vs being set alight?

 

[Shade]

So something like 1d6 acid plus 1d6 fire on a direct hit, plus 1d3 fire in a 5 ft. splash, with a direct hit requiring a saving throw vs being set alight?

Works for me. Are you with us on 15 HD?

 

[Cleon]

Works for me. Are you with us on 15 HD?

I'd rather make it either 12 HD or 16 Hit Dice, or 150% or 200% of the original monster's 8 HD.

Are we keeping it Large, like the original?

If we go for 16 HD, I was tempted to make it Huge, so it's bigger than the 5-12 HD (Large) Advancement of a standard SRD Gibbering Mouther. However, I don't fancy giving it the Str 26 and 1d3+8 damage bites standard Size advancement would suggest.

So, Large size and 12 HD, with Advancement 12-15 HD (Large); 16-36 HD (Huge) ?

 

[Shade]

Hmm...if the choices are limited to 12 or 16, I'm voting 16.

If we're going 16, and going Huge, I want the greater Str and damage.

So it looks like we all need to find a happy compromise.

 

[Cleon]

Hmm...if the choices are limited to 12 or 16, I'm voting 16.

If we're going 16, and going Huge, I want the greater Str and damage.

So it looks like we all need to find a happy compromise.

I don't mind 16 HD and Huge, but would like to keep the Strength low for its size - maybe Str 17 like a Huge Black Pudding or Str 18 like an Huge (advanced) Gelatinous Cube.

 

[freyar]

Why don't we keep 16HD Huge but compromise a bit on Str. How about Str 21 or 22? Maybe a similar compromise on Con, too. How about Str 22, Dex 9, Con 27, Int 7, Wis 16, Cha 16? I bumped all the mental abilities up by +3 since the greater version has Int 7 vs a 3.X gibbering mouther's Int 4.

 

[Shade]

Why don't we keep 16HD Huge but compromise a bit on Str. How about Str 21 or 22? Maybe a similar compromise on Con, too. How about Str 22, Dex 9, Con 27, Int 7, Wis 16, Cha 16? I bumped all the mental abilities up by +3 since the greater version has Int 7 vs a 3.X gibbering mouther's Int 4.

I like this.

 

[Cleon]

Why don't we keep 16HD Huge but compromise a bit on Str. How about Str 21 or 22? Maybe a similar compromise on Con, too. How about Str 22, Dex 9, Con 27, Int 7, Wis 16, Cha 16? I bumped all the mental abilities up by +3 since the greater version has Int 7 vs a 3.X gibbering mouther's Int 4.

Still prefer a +3 or +4 Strength bonus, so Str 16-19.

I'd be happy with a high Constitution though, maybe even Con 30 like a Huge Gelatinous Cube. Which, purely by coincidence, is what you get advancing the SRD Gibbering Mouther by two size categories.

 

[Shade]

Still prefer a +3 or +4 Strength bonus, so Str 16-19.

Sell me on the low Str. What's your reasoning?