Converting monsters from Dragon magazine (Part Two)

[demiurge1138]

I like Shade's idea of making its breath weapon an option. I think that feather falling was more of what the authors had in mind... but I like gliding.

As for the damage of the breath weapon, it does seem a bit high... but I really like it. Not too often the d20s get broken out for damage.

Demiurge out.

 

[Shade]

As for the damage of the breath weapon, it does seem a bit high... but I really like it. Not too often the d20s get broken out for damage.

Indeed. Bring on the d20s and d12s for damage!

 

[freyar]

How about the ranged touch is 2d12 but the breath weapon is 2d20 with Ref save for half? I like glide, too.

 

[demiurge1138]

How about the ranged touch is 2d12 but the breath weapon is 2d20 with Ref save for half? I like glide, too.

Strikes me as a perfectly good compromise.

Demiurge out.

 

[freyar]

Sounds good, then. For the skills, how about we max out Hide? For feats, Stealthy goes with the hiding schtick, but I'm not sure what else is good.

 

[Shade]

Sounds good.

Max range on spit acid with touch attack?

Standard gargoyles have Hide, Listen, Spot, and I think all would apply here as well.

Alertness or Improved Initiative for the second feat?

 

[demiurge1138]

Make the max range 60ft. Enough so it can sit up from a height and spew at foes.

We might want to make its feats Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot, although we could alternatively give it Precise Shot as a bonus feat. If we did that, make its second "real" feat Improved Initiative.

You are right that all of those skills sound good.

Demiurge out.

 

[freyar]

Hmm, so Hide 2, Listen 3, Spot 3? Hide can make up for it with the bonuses.

60 ft on the ranged attack, 5 ft cone for the breath?

Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot are really good ideas for the two feats.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

20 ft. climb speed?

CR 5 (standard gargoyle is CR 4)?

Advancement: x
Normal gargoyle is 5–6 HD (Medium); 7–12 HD (Large)

A spouter gargoyle stands 3 feet tall and weighs X pounds. (No weight given for standard gargoyle)

 

[freyar]

20 ft climb, CR 5 sound good. 6-8 HD (Small), 9-12 (Medium)? 50-75 lb?