Converting monsters from First Edition modules

[BOZ]

i'll work on prettying this conversion up today.

 

[BOZ]

updated / cleaned up a bit.

 

[Shade]

For the weights, how about 100 lbs. for Small, 250 lbs. for Medium, and 500 lbs. for Large?

Small - CR 3?
Medium - CR 5?
Large - CR 8?

 

[Shade]

For AC, if we follow the normal size advancement rules:

Small = +7 natural
Med= +7 natural (same)
Large= +9 natural

 

[BOZ]

that seems a bit low though. that yields an AC of 19 for the Small, but 18 of the larger two. how about if we set the CRs, then do a bit of comparison?

let's see, they have the stun darts and vapor jets which are cool attacks, but the DCs aren't great. the crush is a very weak and specialized attack, and the power surge is a death throes attack, so neither of them should really figure into the CR. the flipping over vulnerability doesn't help them much, although they may not fall victim to it very often. they are constructs though, so they do get decent hp but sucky saves, plus a slew of immunities as well as the extra cold, fire, and electricity immunities.

they are definitely not as badass as golems, and are probably not a high challenge for the HD, but not total pushovers either. how about CR 2 for the small, CR 5 for the Medium, and CR 8 for the Large?

 

[Shade]

Small - CR 3?
Medium - CR 5?
Large - CR 8?

they are definitely not as badass as golems, and are probably not a high challenge for the HD, but not total pushovers either. how about CR 2 for the small, CR 5 for the Medium, and CR 8 for the Large?

Other than the Small, it looks like we are in complete agreement.

For the Small, they seem at least as good as, if not slightly better than, the wood and tin golems from a recent Dragon, which are both CR 3.

 

[Aspect of BOZ]

OK, given those CRs, what should be the target AC for constructs of these HD?

 

[Mortis]

OK, given those CRs, what should be the target AC for constructs of these HD?

I'ld do for something like 20, 23, and 26.

Regards
Mortis

 

[Shade]

AC comparisons:

CR 3 constructs:
Large Animated Object = 14
Tin Golem = 19
Wood Golem = 17

CR 5 constructs:
Huge Animated Object = 13
Chain Golem = 21
Equine Golem = 15
Junk Golem = 17
Stained Glass Golem = 15

CR 8 constructs:
Blood Golem of Hextor = 26
Brass Steed = 22
Cadaver Golem = 20
Rune Golem = 20
Serpentflesh Golem = 21
Thayan Golem = 24


So I'd recommend:
Small: 17-19
Medium: 18-21
Large: 22-23

 

[BOZ]

since we've already got the Small at 19, i'll go with the high end of the range for the others.

updating!