Converting Monsters from Polyhedron Magazine

[Cleon]

That being the case, shall we replace the slam attacks with unarmed strikes?

That was part of the idea, yes.

It's just a question of changing the name, the damage should stay the same.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

That seems to be about it for their abilities.

Environment: Any forest or plains?
Organization: Solitary, gang (2-10) or mob (10-50 plus 100% noncombatants)?
Challenge Rating: 1?

 

[Shade]

I'd lean toward CR 2. They are fairly close to a bugbear.

The rest looks good.

 

[Cleon]

I'd lean toward CR 2. They are fairly close to a bugbear.

Yes, I was split between a strong 1 and a weakish 2.

They're pretty close to the SRD Bugbear in saves and melee damage, but weaker on AC and ranged damage. I suppose the Fling Filth Special Attack helps balance that out.

So, no major objections to CR 2.

 

[freyar]

That's settled then.

 

[Cleon]

That's settled then.

Anything else, or is it just flavour left?

 

[Shade]

Anything else, or is it just flavour left?

Advancement and Level Adjustment. I can't see "by character class" for them, and I'm not sure if they should actually improve by HD. I'm leaning toward "-" for Advancement, and a LA of +1 (cohort).

 

[Cleon]

Advancement and Level Adjustment. I can't see "by character class" for them, and I'm not sure if they should actually improve by HD. I'm leaning toward "-" for Advancement, and a LA of +1 (cohort).

I'd rather they have some kind of Advancement. The SRD Troll is no smarter than a Yahoo, and they advance by character class. Even the SRD Ape has HD Advancement and Yahoo's are significantly more "human" than one of them.

I'm leaning towards advancement by character class (favoured class Barbarian) but might be persuaded around to something like 4-6 HD (Medium) or thereabouts if you don't like that.

 

[Shade]

I'd rather they have some kind of Advancement. The SRD Troll is no smarter than a Yahoo, and they advance by character class. Even the SRD Ape has HD Advancement and Yahoo's are significantly more "human" than one of them.

I'm leaning towards advancement by character class (favoured class Barbarian) but might be persuaded around to something like 4-6 HD (Medium) or thereabouts if you don't like that.

I suppose if we have to have one, I'd lean toward HD advancement, since these are essentially "horses" for the horse-people. I'll leave it up to freyar to break the deadlock.

If we do go the "by character class" route, we'll need a traditional LA, not cohort.