Converting Monsters from Polyhedron Magazine

[Cleon]

While precedents do exist--down that road leads ruin. Trust me from experience on this one.

Still, if you guys both badly want to go down that road, I'll fasten my safety belt, close my eyes, and grit my teeth while awaiting our grisly demise.

EDIT: That path also doesn't fit in well with the other "undead lord" templates. Food for thought.

Well do it without extra HD if you like.

I'm probably going to stat it as a straight monster anyway, so it doesn't make much difference to me.

 

[Shade]

Usually the "add extra HD" templates work best for monsters that become "gigantic".

Upon reflection, I'm thinking we should consider allowing for other classes too. The sample Ghast-Lord may just happen to be a cleric. Something like any evil character of at least 4th level can become a Ghast-Lord.

Are we requiring four levels in a character class, or simply 4 HD?

 

[Cleon]

Usually the "add extra HD" templates work best for monsters that become "gigantic".

Are we requiring four levels in a character class, or simply 4 HD?

I was thinking four levels in a character class.

 

[Shade]

I was thinking four levels in a character class.

Can you find a precedent for using levels in a generic character class as a template prereq?

 

[Cleon]

Can you find a precedent for using levels in a generic character class as a template prereq?

Can't think of anything official, but that's never stopped me before.

The closest I can think of are the SRD Lich (which has to have CL 11th to make its phylactery).

 

[Shade]

Can't think of anything official, but that's never stopped me before.

The closest I can think of are the SRD Lich (which has to have CL 11th to make its phylactery).

Caster level is a perfectly valid prereq...I've never seen anyting require "x levels in a class"...which is actually counterintuitive to the 3e design model.

We can go off BAB, base saves, and so forth to get close to what you're looking for.

I still don't see why it shouldn't be limited to a divine caster. <shrug>

 

[freyar]

I'd make it divine CL 4 or something.

 

[Shade]

I'd make it divine CL 4 or something.

That appeals to me.

 

[Cleon]

I was wondering about +4 Base Will Save and the ability to cast X spells with the Evil descriptor.

 

[Shade]

If we're going to use spellcasting as a prereq, we might as well use the simpler and more common "casts spells of x level" approach.