Converting monsters from the second edition Monstrous Compendiums

[BOZ]

sounds cool; updating.

CR 17?

 

[Shade]

17 sounds about right.

 

[BOZ]

updating in homebrews again.

 

[BOZ]

DR: 10 or 15/bludgeoning

Space Reach: 30 ft/20 ft – BUT would it even have a reach? And wouldn’t it simply take up a space on the map equal to its size?

Touch attack as both Attack and Full attack? Would that be: Touch +29 melee touch (grapple)?

Treasure: None? Or standard for incidental?

Alignment: Always or Usually neutral?

Did we ever figure out how to best determine its tonnage?

Create opening and Throw attacks would have Charisma-based for save DC?

Throw: victims get a Reflex save or other? How many squares away could the victim get tossed?

 

[Shade]

DR: 10 or 15/bludgeoning

I think 10 will work. The greater stone golem (CR 16) has a 10 before the slash.

Space Reach: 30 ft/20 ft – BUT would it even have a reach? And wouldn’t it simply take up a space on the map equal to its size?

The problem is, if you don't give it reach, it draws an attack of opportunity every time it makes an attack. Maybe give it 5 ft. reach?

Touch attack as both Attack and Full attack? Would that be: Touch +29 melee touch (grapple)?

+15 BAB + 14 Str -8 size = +21 melee touch. I'd use the same for both Attack and Full attack.

Treasure: None? Or standard for incidental?

I'd give it incidental.

Alignment: Always or Usually neutral?

I vote "usually". I like the idea of an evil bridge from time to time.

Did we ever figure out how to best determine its tonnage?

Not really. The closest I came up with was one link above.

Create opening and Throw attacks would have Charisma-based for save DC?

Yes.

Throw: victims get a Reflex save or other? How many squares away could the victim get tossed?

I like Reflex. One square should be sufficient to throw them over the edge, right?

 

[BOZ]

Ok, I’ll give it a 5’ reach then. But what about space? 100??

Forgot the size penalty to attacks – duh! Would I list a “damage” in parenthesis, or just say Touch +21 melee touch

I’ll figure out the tonnage when I get a sec to look at it.

 

[Shade]

Ok, I’ll give it a 5’ reach then. But what about space? 100??

Yeah, I can't really see any way around 100' space.

Forgot the size penalty to attacks – duh! Would I list a “damage” in parenthesis, or just say Touch +21 melee touch.

Hmm...maybe touch +21 melee touch (0) or touch +21 melee touch (attempt grapple)? The roper does no damage with its strand, and lists its attack as: Strand +11 ranged touch (drag).

 

[BOZ]

i put (grab).

 

[Shade]

Perfect.

 

[BOZ]

how many touch attacks should we allow per round? i say more than one might be good, but it may not be absolutely necessary.