Converting prehistoric creatures

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11 HD it is, then.

Piranha swarm has Str 4, Dex 15, Con 12, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 2.

Increase Str and Con a bit?
 

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Agreed. Str 6, Con 14? The Str isn't going to do much, but it seems flavorful. An increased natural armor bonus also strikes me as a wise thing to do.
 



Echohawk created and maintains those lists, so we'll have to let him know. Did anyone reply to that thread yet?
I am still here and keeping an eye on the threads, but I've been hectically busy with work so I'm a little behind in keeping the unconverted totals up-to-date. I should get caught up this weekend.
 

On the speed: Cheirolepis would have most likely been slower than a piranha but fast enough to outclass the sluggish but well-armored antiarchs on the sea floor. So yeah, 30 feet works dandy.

On the armor: It sounds about right, although I might suggest decreasing it to +3. +4 is encroaching on the small monstrous crab, which cheirolepis most certainly isn't. It did have a thick scale "plating", but it's not comparable to a chitonous outer shell or carapace. The closest modern fish I'd compare cheirolepis's skin to would be my native alligator gar; it's thick and tough, but it's not exactly a haulting shell.
 
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I'd say so. Although since I was the person who originally brought up that idea, I may be biased. :p
 


11 HD also sounds good for this swarm. Incidentally,despite the "armor" in its nickname it is unrelated to the Dunkleosteus we did way back.
 

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